Bush makes the horned hand sign

histoire scoutisme

En résumé (grâce à un LLM libre auto-hébergé)

  • The article recounts the author's personal experience as a scout during the Indochina era, with intensive activities and political influences.
  • References to political figures such as Bush, Sarkozy, Obama, Berlusconi, and Pope Benedict XVI, all linked to scouting.
  • The article addresses the history of scouting, its symbols, and its influence on important personalities.

Bush makes the horned hand sign

Bush salutes his boy-scout friends

March 21, 2005

January 18, 2009: Amazing discovery: Sarkozy and Obama were in the same scout movement as Bush and Berlusconi!

[December 2011: Pope Benedict XVI makes a wrong scout sign!](/BIG BROTHER/signe_main_bush.htm#pape)

Given the nature of the reactions following the creation of this page, I would like to add a preamble. First, readers are reminded that, in front of any information or message, they should think for themselves. The second remark is to recall that humor can be used to draw attention to information that might be in a different category and of an entirely different level. In these times when freedom of information risks being lost at any moment, it is not useless to start training to:

*- Write between the lines - Read between the lines. *

To write between the lines, one uses a mésographe. To read between the lines, use a mésoscope.

I was a scout when I was a kid. For the street kid I was, without a penny, used to the asphalt of Rue Jean-Baptiste Dumas and the Porte de Champerret in Paris, it was my first contact with nature. At the 54th Paris, the atmosphere was a bit strange. Today we would say that this troop was "coached" by people from the far right. But at the time I knew nothing about politics. We were a group of "raiders". This was during the Indochina War. Other scouts had police-style Canadian hats, sticks with ribbons, long shorts and high socks. They played games where they tied scarves to their belts, on their backs, trying to steal them from each other. We had green berets, we were dressed in khaki and we did "raids". During camps we were made to "jump out of a parachute". We were woken up in the middle of the night and taken in a truck for a Rambo-style mission. From a truck moving at a moderate speed we were "dropped" from the back and did a "roll". Then, in pairs, we had to follow a direction with a compass, all night long, equipped with gear from American surplus. We had khaki flashlights, khaki canteens, and knives with 20 cm blades (other scouts had Swiss knives). At eleven years old, we crossed rivers naked with all our gear fixed on our heads. We knew how to cross ravines by laying a trunk across, after felling it with an axe in a few minutes, and descend on a rope. At that age I was able to cut down a tree with a 20 cm diameter in a flash, build a nailed bridge and set up a tent in the trees, six meters high, or on stilts. Additionally, I was able to set a broken leg, apply a tourniquet and without hesitation, I would have been able to sew a wound properly.

The troop was coached by a troop leader named Claude and by a priest, Abbé Vicat, with sunken cheeks, the type who rarely laughs. In fact, we didn't laugh at all. Today we would say "we were there to suffer". Well, I liked nature, that was mainly it. But later I found that it wasn't really necessary to have such a serious face when doing camping or sports.

We did "drill", that is, marching exercises, like the marines with "half-turn while marching", etc... We sang strange songs, like:

The street belongs to the one who goes down it

The street belongs to the flag of the white caps

Against us, hatred

Against us, cries and swear words

Trampling the dark mud

Go the white caps

http://ingeb.org/Lieder/obssturm.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-_ixdAzAAY&feature=related

http://bian.ca/refer/obssturb.MP3

The French Foreign Legion (the white caps )


It was only many years later that I learned that the song came from the panzer division that had swept over France in 39.

You will find this song from the German panzer division ( tanks ) at the address:

or :

version in MP3 :

( in original version )

hansons taken up by

, the Chilean troops, etc.

Notice the skull on the collar. Very suitable.

Making a parenthesis on the internationalization of military marching songs, I remember that when I was drafted into the base of Caen-Carpiquet to do my military service in 1961, all the students from the Grandes Ecoles had been gathered there. We obviously got this song, but also others, straight from the Nazi troops. There was something like "For you, Véronika, Ah, Ah, Ah ...." and many other songs. Imagine the look on all our Jewish classmates. And in the Grandes Ecoles they are legion (as one of my friends from the time said: we all have a bit of Jewish blood, otherwise we wouldn't have gone to school!).

It didn't take long to find the German lyrics. And when the small lieutenants commanding the sections (small ... polytechnicians) launched these marching songs, they were a bit surprised.

  • But, what is this??

  • Lieutenant, it's better to sing them in the original version, isn't it?

The base command forced us to sing the French versions of these Nazi songs. We proposed traditional French songs. Refused, a struggle, lots of punishments, officer-students confined to the base. But the class stood together, out of solidarity with the Jewish students and the command had to give in.

Returning to my scouting episode, I found it simply strange, when we passed through villages, that the inhabitants closed their shutters as we passed.

Finally, in this strange atmosphere I explored the Rochefort caves, I sailed in rough weather on a corvette, near Benodet. I remember images that looked very much like those in the movie "The Crab Tambour", when you see the corvette plunging into the waves in rough weather.

It was a change from the asphalt and games consisting of navigating boats in gutters.

At each camp we had "losses". That is, a large number of kids were "evacuated to the rear", meaning that their parents came to pick them up, often in pretty bad shape. I'm surprised that at that time they didn't finish off the untransportable. Looking back, it's surprising that we didn't have any deaths. But, let's say that this training came in handy when I was a safari guide in Kenya, much later.

What I remember is the scout salute. See the drawing A on the following board.

![](/legacy/BIG BROTHER/illustrations/signes_main.gif)

Normally, this allows people who have been scouts to recognize each other, in the street or in the subway. Sometimes I meet people who look quite sporty and I think "maybe they were scouts?" Then I make this sign. But since I never had much success, over the years I eventually gave up.

There are plenty of scouts, though. The Pope, for example, was also a scout. The proof: he makes sign B. This must correspond to the scouts of the Vatican. Since I have never been present at his public appearances, I haven't been able to see if other scouts from his troop responded to him.

In fact, if you look closely, many people have been scouts. It's quite nice to recognize each other with a hand sign. Churchill, for example, made the sign of the British scouts (C). At that time there were many people making the same sign and who had probably also been scouts in England. I didn't know that Le Pen had been a scout there, because he often makes the same sign as Churchill.

I eventually understood that scout signs can vary from country to country. For example, sign D is the one used by scouts from Arab countries. When you are observant, you see that practically all the Mollahs were scouts, as well as Bin Laden.

In E, the recognition sign of American scouts.

In January 2001 George W. Bush was elected President of the United States. There is a video referring to that period. There is something I found quite nice. When Bush parades in public, after his inauguration, as shown in this video, he makes a variation of the American scout sign with his hand. He salutes his little school friends with whom he must have done camps when he was a kid. You can see this sign at the beginning of this video. Olivier Rouault, who is more computer-savvy than me, extracted the brief sequence where you can see him making this sign:

Bush making a sign to his old scout friends

This short sequence is at the beginning of the 40-minute video:

http://crea.sites.free.fr/gwbushlepetroleaupouvoir.wmv

It must have made a big impression on Bush in his life because I noticed that he often makes this sign. This proves that he has remained very young at heart.

![](/legacy/BIG BROTHER/illustrations/signe_main_bush.gif)

**The recognition sign of the scout troop to which G.W. Bush belonged in the past. **

A reader had sent me photos of him making this, but I wondered if it might not be a montage, since it didn't look like the sign I knew until then, the sign E, the one of American scouts. If there are people who have these images, I can put them on this page. This video suggests that he really makes a sign and I wonder then which scout troop it could be. If someone could shed light. What surprises me is that so many people have been scouts in this troop, in the United States, for example Berlusconi. There too, if you have photos, it would help to clarify.

This certainly proves one thing, that scouting is much more developed than one might think.

Another photo of Bush making a sign to his old scout troop.

![](/legacy/BIG BROTHER/illustrations/salcorbbu.jpg)

Photo J. Scott Applewhite, Associated Press

**Bush addressing American university scouts **

**Younger, in Texas, with a leader, during a scout camp **

**In the street **

At the office

**When Bush has his hands occupied, his assistant makes the scout sign on his behalf **

Here is something I didn't know: Mrs. Bush also did scouting in her country:

![](/legacy/BIG BROTHER/illustrations/salut_bush_plus_epouse.jpg)

**Mr. and Mrs. **

**At any event, they never forget to show their unwavering attachment to the Baden Powell movement **

Traditions are lost, but in the Bush family they seem to be very much alive, despite the somewhat outdated nature of scouting. The photo above shows that obviously Mrs. Bush was also part of scouting movements. In the photo below, which seems to show one of George W. Bush's daughters, you can see that the next generation is ensured and that this young generation already proudly displays the recognition sign adopted by their parents.

![](/legacy/BIG BROTHER/illustrations/signe_bush__fille.jpg)

**Bush, very proud of his daughter, also initiated into scouting **

**Condy recognized the sign **

Others, faithful to their membership in the same scout movement:

Dick Cheney

Tom Ridge, former director of the United States security services

It is confirmed that Berlusconi was in the same scout troop as Bush:

![](/legacy/BIG BROTHER/illustrations/berlusconi_cornes.jpg)

**I'm also in... **

**And I confirm! **

as well as the wife of Schwarzenegger, from the Kennedy family, photographed here on their wedding day:

![](/legacy/BIG BROTHER/illustrations/epouse_schwarzenegger.jpg)

Of course, one of the characteristics of the scouting movement is that it reaches all layers of the population:

**The Beetles **( on the right, John Lennon reminds us that he was a scout when he was young )

Clinton, with a scout leader

**Another former scout, politician, Dan Quayle, from Indiana **

Michael Youn, TV presenter

I think this one is a scout rocker, at a jamboree

**Finally, a specimen of an old scout, bearded ** ---

Sarkozy was also in the same scout troop as Bush, Berlusconi, and many others ** :

![sarkoscout1](/legacy/BIG BROTHER/illustrations/sarkornu.jpg) ![sarkoscout2](/legacy/BIG BROTHER/illustrations/sarkornu2.jpg)

**Before his rise, on the left. After his election, on the right, showing his loyalty to the movement founded by Baden Powell **

![bushscout](/legacy/BIG BROTHER/illustrations/salcorbbu.jpg)

**What a wonderful movement, beyond the petty divisions, beyond the oceans **

What's nice is that scouts all over the world have recognition signs. Here, Obama, shortly after his election, reminds of his membership in the movement, and he does it with both hands, to be sure to be understood. Scouting really goes beyond borders and skin color.

![obama_scout](/legacy/BIG BROTHER/illustrations/obama_scout.jpg)

But, according to a reader, it seems that with the thumb free, it means "I love you" in sign language

**Was Obama talking to deaf-mutes that day? ****Question: How do deaf-mute scouts recognize each other? **

Here, another image of Obama, addressing the deaf-mutes

Obama, having become president, thanking his deaf-mute voters

What is surprising, and I had never noticed it before, is the number of speakers from all sides, from all regions of the world, who never forget to send a friendly greeting to the deaf-mutes:

Hillary Clinton, greeting the deaf-mutes

Bill Clinton, sending a loving thought to the hearing impaired

**Even a touching concern from Sarah Palin, the running mate of candidate McCain **

Two executives of the McDonald's society, one greeting the deaf-mutes, the other making the scout sign

**The same one, greeting the Japanese scouts **

Finally, a Thai general sending a message of love to the deaf-mutes of his country

![premier ministre thai en fuite](/legacy/BIG BROTHER/illustrations/premier_ministre_thai_en_fuite.gif)

Other variations of this World Organization of Scouting :

The Dalai Lama

**Obama and the ... deaf-mute scouts? **

Here, it's clear for the deaf-mutes

How many deaf-mutes in the world!

Another beetle-scout

Charity gives a musical performance for deaf-mutes

Celine Dion during a show in Las Vegas, for the deaf-mutes

Another artist, during this recital for deaf-mutes

Delicate attention of Michael Jackson to the deaf-mutes

Discreet wink of Bush, at the Queen of England, to the local scout friends

Mac Conaughey, former scout

Another member of the show business, former scout

Elizabeth Taylor greeting deaf-mutes around the world

December 2011 :

We know that the Holy Father, Benedict XVI, is old (84 years), has difficulty moving and articulating his messages, which makes him closer to God. It's a pity, on the occasion of his homily, that he made a wrong sign. Indeed, the Vatican scouts have their own recognition sign (boxed in red, on the left). But the faithful will surely forgive this mistake, attributable to the canonical age of the Great Shepherd:


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