I have a doubt about the Disclosure project

I have doubts about the Disclosure project.

I have doubts about "Disclosure."

March 13, 2003. Completed on March 19

In 2001, I read the powerful statement by Dr. Steven Greer, whose French version is available at the following website:

http://disclosureproject.free.fr

A French volunteer had previously translated the original text from English.

Greer presents his claims: Americans have succeeded in understanding many mysteries related to UFOs and are now deliberately keeping this technical-scientific knowledge secret, thus preventing the beginning of a golden age on Earth. The hidden discoveries would include unlimited, non-polluting energy sources, enabling humanity to free itself from the constraints of fossil and nuclear energy. (Disclosure means revelation.)

The original text appears to invite individuals involved in secret programs to come forward and share their knowledge with the world. All of this is supported by a few rather superficial testimonies from former government officials.

In 2001, Greer changed strategy, founded his own company:

Space Energy Access Systems www.SEASpower.com PO Box 265 Crozet, VA 22932 Phone: 540-456-8302 Fax: 540-456-8303

and began searching for the discovery of the millennium—this new energy source capable of solving all problems on our planet.

In January 2003, he gave a spectacular radio interview broadcast throughout the United States. A summary of his main points follows:

March 19. Message from Dr. Jean-Pierre Petit, France, to Debbie Foch, webmaster of the Disclosure Project. 1

Dear Debbie,

In France, we are very surprised by your long silence. I sent an important file to the Disclosure Project before Christmas. No reply.

What exactly is Disclosure?

If the fantastic invention mentioned by Dr. Greer is merely a hoax, the entire project collapses. But wasn't that expected?

A hypothesis:

1 - Greer presents his claims on his website. He asserts his intention to courageously fight authorities to reveal the truth.
2 - His efforts begin to resemble a simple marketing operation.
3 - Then Greer searches for "new energies."
4 - He quickly finds a fantastic invention converting vacuum energy into electricity. The inventor is not a physicist, but "a man who has a good feeling for electromagnetism."
5 - The invention turns out to be a hoax.
6 - Greer is discredited.
7 - Later, when another attempt is made to challenge the cover-up policy, people will say: "Same thing. Things will unfold just like in Greer's story."

In short: Is Disclosure a disinformation operation?

Sincerely,
Dr. Jean-Pierre Petit

March 19. Debbie Foch's reply:

Dear Jean-Pierre,

Of course, Disclosure is not a disinformation operation.

We are just a small team of people working mostly on a voluntary basis, and we are extremely overloaded with work. Right now, Dr. Greer is focusing on the energy project, along with the rest of the SEAS scientific team.

There is nothing to report to the public at the moment. When there is, we will let everyone know.

Please do not assume failure or a hoax. That is neither our goal nor our intention.

If you wish to send your research documents directly to Dr. Greer, you can mail them to:

Dr. Steven Greer
PO Box 265
Crozet, VA 22932
United States

My response:

Dear Debbie,

If Disclosure is not a disinformation operation, prove it simply. Greer must have a personal email address. Give it to me. You have the work. Print it and send it to him. > We are just a small team of people working mostly on a voluntary basis, and we are extremely overloaded with work. Right now, Dr. Greer is focusing on the energy project, along with the rest of the SEAS scientific team.

Who is this team where no physicist can examine solid, well-constructed work? Who are you all? Jokers? > > There is nothing to report to the public at the moment.

Why not report my work? It is real, well-structured. It refers to very important issues: American black programs and American MHD hypersonic aircraft. We thought Greer was looking for such things. Honestly, what game are you playing? I want an answer. A quick one.

There are therefore only two possibilities. Either Disclosure is a disinformation operation, or it is directed by people incapable and ineffective. We really wonder which of the two scenarios is worse.

Dr. Jean-Pierre Petit

March 20. Message from Debbie Foch, webmaster of Disclosure

Our current work for Disclosure concerns alternative energies not included in secret/controlled programs. Once we have attracted media and government attention, we will then be able to advance on the rest of Disclosure.

Debbie

March 20. My reply:

Dear Debbie,

This new position contradicts Greer’s initial statements. We don’t believe you. We don’t believe in this “new energy.” We think it’s simply a hoax. In practice, Disclosure will function as a disinformation operation.

Two possibilities:

1 - Greer was informed from the start and is complicit in this disinformation operation
2 - Greer is naive

The future will quickly clarify this matter. I bet my jacket that this fantastic invention, converting vacuum energy into electricity, will collapse rapidly. Nothing solid will come from it.

In any case, there was absolutely no reason not to publish the important information I sent to Disclosure regarding American black programs and American MHD hypersonic aircraft. Your scientific team had ample time to evaluate my work. If they were not competent to assess it, this means their knowledge of physics and electromagnetism was insufficient, and thus they are incapable of evaluating anything.

Immediately publish my file on your website. People must be informed. We’ve already lost too much time.

The Disclosure program is absolutely unclear, and we will tell people so.

• Either you are all naïve, including Dr. Greer
• Or you work for the CIA

Dr. Jean-Pierre Petit

Transcript of Dr. Steven Greer’s interview
on Coast to Coast AM with George Noory, January 30–31, 2003

http://www.disclosureproject.org/excerpts-transcriptcoasttocoastJan312003.htm

George Noory (GN): Tonight, at this hour, we’re going to talk about zero-point energy. Welcome, Dr. Greer. How are you doing today?

Steven Greer (SG): I’m doing well, thank you. And you?

GN: Good. Always a pleasure. Zero-point energy. Is there an organization or individual actually working on this?

SG: Well, of course we are. I’m not sure it’s truly zero-point energy. Some would say it’s the energy of the quantum vacuum flux field. There are many people with different theories about this. But as you know, we’ve formed a group called Space Energy Access Systems, a company currently identifying and testing technologies, machines, and devices that claim—simplifying—to produce more electrical energy than the input required, which according to classical theory shouldn’t be possible, but in reality, it can be. The reason I’m speaking about this at such an early stage of discovery is that the millions of people listening tonight are our protection. Those of you listening should tell everyone you know that this is happening. It’s our intention to protect this system, test it, refine it, make it publicly available, and end the need for gas, oil, and coal, thereby beginning a fully sustainable civilization on this planet—long overdue. This could have happened fifty years ago or more. But now it’s time for us to do it together as a people. Those hearing this for the first time must understand that I carefully considered whether I should even speak about this at this stage, but we judged, for security reasons, that it was very important to speak.

If the tests and development hold up, this will be the greatest scientific breakthrough in all of human history—recorded history—ever. And this is not an exaggeration.

Let me describe what I’ve seen, if you have a moment.

GN: Of course. Tell me its size, Steven.

SG: It’s not very big at all! I carried it—I can hold it in one hand. I even took it out onto a sidewalk. The device passively captured less than one watt of energy from the environment—I won’t say how it was done, I’m not allowed to now—and the machine started running. It produced hundreds of watts of usable energy, actually operating, and we were stunned to see this. We hooked it up ourselves, so there was no mystery. We even chose which devices to plug into it. It powered a 300-watt bulb, a 100-watt bulb, a stereo system, and an oscillating electric fan—all at the same time—with literally zero input power. So this is an extraordinary scientific breakthrough. The inventor certainly deserves the next Nobel Prize—or the one awarded after full scientific community testing—if what we’re seeing holds up.

Now, I must say our criteria—those who know about our research in this area, and we’ve been doing this for years because we know they don’t travel through interstellar space using Exxon Jet-A fuel.

GN: Exactly!

SG: And we know these technologies could power our planet without pollution, poverty, or any more wars over oil. So when we began searching for this, our criteria were that the inventor had to be mentally sound and rational enough to allow transparent evaluation or testing. And in fact, this person was exactly that kind of brilliant, humble, realistic man who allowed us to see the device transparently—examine it in full. There was no hidden energy source. As I said, you could pick it up, take it outside, place it on a sidewalk, and it worked! And this is something that could obviously be placed in every home, every car, every industry, enabling the world to leave behind an era of deprivation and war and enter an era of abundance and peace as long as we want to create it. This could therefore be one of the greatest breakthroughs I’ve ever seen. And one thing I’m especially grateful for is that, you know, we’ve heard about such things appearing and disappearing in Tesla’s time, in Floyd Sweet’s time, in T. Henry Moray’s time, and others—but to stand in the presence of a man capable of building such a circuit and seeing it work. If I were to die tomorrow, at least I’d know it’s possible, casting a huge ray of hope into humanity’s world as we seem to be heading toward the next oil war.

So I think this is a very significant breakthrough. However, it’s preliminary. We require that—there’s an agreement with the inventor for a more robust version of this device to be manufactured in the coming months. It will then undergo further research and development, along with reproducibility studies, meaning we must be able to independently reproduce the effects. It will then be tested in at least three independent government and university laboratories we’ve already pre-selected for their honesty and cooperation. And when all conditions are met and we’re certain of what we have—I’m telling you this preliminarily now—it will then be massively disclosed to the world, which should be considered one of the most important scientific announcements of our era.

GN: Very well. This person, Steven—if you can tell me—happens to be a physicist?

SG: Hmm—no. Well, I suppose anyone dealing with this kind of energy would be a type of physicist, but not formally trained. He’s someone you’d call a natural genius in this field, and since childhood, he’s had a very deep, almost intuitive knowledge of electromagnetism, electrical circuits, and such things.

GN: One of Albert Einstein’s protégés many years ago, John Wheeler, once said about this kind of energy that in the volume of a coffee cup, there’s enough energy to evaporate all the oceans of the world. It’s so powerful and could supply the entire world with energy, and if you can—

SG: If you can harness it, yes.

GN: Yes, I just wanted to say, if you can harness it—my goodness, you’ll save humanity!

SG: That’s exactly why I’m speaking. I’ve returned from this journey… and I wanted to be very, very clear that this information must get out… because I have to tell you that this is the kind of thing people have unfortunately been absorbed into operations where such technologies were suppressed. People have been murdered, imprisoned, things like that bought and left on a shelf in a large corporation.

GN: Mm Hmm.

SG: This isn’t a conspiracy theory. We can prove this in court—it’s happened again and again. And the reason we’re rushing to let the world know it exists is that the ultimate shield against this is two things: first, my absolute assurance that I’d take a bullet before allowing this to be suppressed, and second, that there’s no money—no amount of zeros behind a one can buy us off and prevent this from reaching the public. Furthermore, the public must understand that if anything happens to this prospect, they should absolutely, if necessary, go down into the streets to ensure it’s released again. This is the moment for this nonsense, where inventions have been suppressed and humanity left in a state of increasing decline—poverty, pollution, etc. We simply must reverse this trend.

Of course, you’re facing a global energy, utility, and transportation sector worth five trillion dollars based on fossil fuels. But it’s really time this era ends and another begins. Even the President said in his State of the Union address after 9/11 that it’s imperative for national security that we become energy independent.

GN: Absolutely!

SG: And there’s no doubt that the situation we face today worldwide and the vulnerability of so many nations are tied to our unnecessary dependence and addiction to fossil fuels—oil, coal, etc. And these technologies, long suppressed, are almost legendary. But I must tell you, one more important thing—and any technician listening will know what I mean—over recent years, we’ve seen several devices that seemed very promising but didn’t produce energy in a usable form. This device, if you can imagine it working as I described, produces energy at 60 hertz, 110 volts, proper current, worked on anything we wanted to plug into it, and did so as long as we left it running. It’s something I’ve never seen before in all my experience traveling the world studying this!

We see no possible explanation for this as a hoax, and the scientist is completely sincere, honest, direct, and it was an honor to be in his presence. I felt like I was in the presence of someone like Tesla seeing this man work, and seeing my scientific advisor, Dr. Ted Loder, professor of science at the University of New Hampshire, right there working beside this man who openly showed everything and allowed our entire scientific team to plug everything in. It was an extraordinary experience, and I hope, I pray, and I hope others will pray with us, that we’ll be guided in the right direction to get this out as quickly as possible to a world that, at this almost critical moment, certainly needs a way to live on this planet without cannibalizing the Earth that sustains us.

GN: Steven, I sense urgency in your voice. Have you or this inventor been threatened about this?

SG: No, not at all, and the reason we haven’t received threats is that I immediately passed this along to very high-level circles. I mean, you know, we have in our network—in the Disclosure Project network and in the corporate entity, Space Energy Access Systems, whose website is seaspower.com—access to almost anyone significant in today’s world. I mean, literally not six degrees of separation, not really even one degree of separation, and we’ve started—

SG: Yes. No, it was something incredible, and I must tell you that I felt like we were walking through history seeing this thing work, and the implications of it—if I may just briefly sketch the consequences. Imagine having free energy, so you could desalinate all the water needed for agriculture and bring back vast areas of Earth that have become desertified, once lush, to their original state. Imagine being able to manufacture objects with no energy cost, no fuel expenses. Imagine eliminating poverty, disease, and suffering. The majority of deaths and suffering in the world are due to lack of basic sanitation, clean water, refrigeration, etc. This could change everything without having to build multi-billion-dollar power plants with transmission lines. Imagine civilizations that still don’t have electricity. Just as people moved from landline phones to mobile phones, they could move from cable-free zones to villages and regions equipped with these devices, enabling a rising level of prosperity and abundance. All studies show that when civilizations transition to greater abundance, accompanied by expanded educational opportunities, birth rates drop dramatically—from ten or eleven children per woman to two or three. Thus, the Malthusian dilemma of large, growing populations in poverty could be resolved. I mean, the implications of this are simply enormous. Moreover, we know that nearly all industrial waste is largely tied to the high cost of energy. We’ve had—Buckminster Fuller and Archibald MacLeash told me many years ago, in the early 1970s—that we already possess the technologies to completely eliminate pollution from all industrial processes, but they consume so much electricity that they result in a decreasing return, because the energy sources used were polluting.

GN: Of course.

SG: In this case, where the energy source is clean, non-polluting, and free, you could clean everything up, practically without environmental pollution. You’re talking about the ability to literally transform the way humans live on Earth, thus laying a real foundation for living together in peace, and eventually going into space together in peace. So—

GN: Just—just go ahead, Steven.

SG: Yes, I mean these are the kinds of implications such a breakthrough could have. Of course, as often said, there will be winners and losers. Well, 99.999% of humanity will be the winners. The Earth will win. Our children’s children will win. There are people with very significant interests in the fossil fuel sector, and this must not be minimized. But I think our goal should be to proceed in a way that protects and strengthens these groups by offering them some security while these technologies are gradually implemented, and old chimney-based technologies are gradually abandoned. This can certainly be done if we’re wise, and if current holders of existing technologies are wise enough to allow this transition in an orderly manner.

GN: On Tuesday, George Bush, in his State of the Union address, pushed for using hydrogen as fuel in cars, which I’ve been advocating for years. But one current problem with hydrogen is producing the electricity needed to generate it.

SG: Exactly.

GN: And that’s a serious issue. So my double-edged question is: would the zero-point energy concept you propose work directly in automobiles, or could it be used to produce the electricity needed to make hydrogen for cars?

SG: Well, the answer is both. That is, you already have two hundred million cars on the roads in the U.S., and six hundred million worldwide. They use oil and gas. The ideal thing to do at first—because most people won’t remove their car’s engine to buy a motor costing thousands of dollars.

GN: No, they can’t afford it.

SG: So what you want to do is use this free energy to have a way to split hydrogen from water, then run cars on that hydrogen. I’ve just met an inventor who has a fuel injector you can screw where your spark plug goes, and the car then runs on hydrogen! So this technology would make possible what the President called for. Thus, existing internal combustion vehicles and trucks could be converted into clean-burning hydrogen vehicles, until all newly manufactured cars are equipped with fully electric propulsion systems running off this generator. I think this can be done. Again, we intend to transmit this information—when we have final scientific reports in a few months—to the President and his inner circle. We certainly can access them. And I think it would be important for the National Security Council, particularly the part dealing with economic security and energy issues, to know this, because there’s no doubt. I mean, whether you’re left or right, or anything else, everyone today recognizes that, in the long term—and even in the short term—it’s in America’s interest to free ourselves from this addictive black gold called oil. And I think the sooner this is done, the sooner we can move into a new, more promising phase of our history.

GN: Zero-point energy comes from principles of quantum mechanics, which deal with subatomic phenomena. Could you explain it in a way most of us could understand what we’re talking about here?

SG: Well, according to what I understand, if you look at the space around us—not outer space, but just the space in the room where you’re sitting—this space, the structure of space, and the fundamental level at which matter and energy fluctuate from a very powerful energy field. It’s a kind of equilibrium. And these technologies disturb this equilibrium enough to draw from this base energy or from quantum vacuum energy, some call it, that surrounds us, in which matter and energy fluctuate in and out, and that we can harness. It’s almost like drawing energy from a reservoir that is always present but not in a usable form. What these systems do is draw from this energy, and in the case of the device we saw, convert it into controlled, usable energy on demand—something astonishing. I must admit I’ve seen other “over-unity” systems where more energy came out than was put in, but in a form that wasn’t easily usable or convertible electricity, so not really immediately practical, and in some cases, people estimated it cost up to fifteen million dollars to make it usable and accessible—whereas this brilliant inventor had, in a very simple system, something you could literally pick up in one hand, carry onto a sidewalk, and power devices. So I think there’s an enormous amount of information on this subject. If you look, there’s a new nearly thousand-page book by Dr. Tom Bearden that has just been published, almost encyclopedic in terms of information on this topic, and he sent me a copy. I’m very grateful to him for that, and I encourage people to get it if they have the courage to go through the details. But I think many people, as I said, Dr. Gene Mallove, Tom Valone, and others, have studied this subject and written about how it’s happened, and have done a kind of ethnography of it, studying the fact that there has been a real culture of scientists over the last century who actually discovered this and invented devices working this way—but all suffered terrible fates, of course, due to powerful special interests and cartels wanting to keep us all billed by electric companies and gas stations. While this is certainly understandable, it’s not surprising that people with significant economic, power, and geopolitical interests would do such things. We’re now at a point where this cannot advance without endangering humanity’s entire future.

GN: How long has your inventor been working on this project?

SG: Seven years.

GN: Not bad! Not bad for R&D [research and development]. Did he explain why this revelation came to him? Why he decided to do this?

SG: Well, he’s someone who’s had a passion for electromagnetism and electricity since age seven. At ten, he was already dismantling objects and imagining extraordinary inventions—just a child. And now, of course, he’s focused his attention on this subject, and has also studied very carefully the great pioneers of the past like Tesla, Faraday, and Maxwell, and so on. And apparently, between this knowledge and his own experiments, his intuition, his insight—a gift, if you want to call it that—enabled him to develop this system. I must say we were stunned.

I know three members of our board of directors were present, and one of them is a very successful businessman who was completely overwhelmed by the implications. Because this businessman explained to me that he spends two hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year just on electricity bills for his business, and I said: “Good heavens! I’d love to earn that much as a doctor!”

He said: “Yes, that’s just my electricity bill.”

I said, "Oh my God! Imagine what that would do!" And this person is, of course, not General Motors, but what efficiency it could add to our civilization, what cost reductions it could bring to manufacturing, and the possibility for every household to have its own small computer-controlled greenhouse, with controlled water, heat, etc. distribution. Energy would be free. You could almost grow almost anything you needed in any climate, in an organic way. The limiting factor for most of these developments is the high cost of energy and the very polluting forms of energy. If you change this equation, you fundamentally change the way humans live on Earth.

GN: Now, realistically, Steven, if you had no difficulties, and you certainly will, but if you had none, when do you think you could put something like this on the market, or at least reach a practical testing phase?

SG: A practical testing phase - we aim for two to three months, then a manufacturable prototype after the testing phase, maybe one or two years, then market launch. We hope that by the first quarter or mid-2004, it could be available. Of course, we don't know what we will encounter, and when you get into this kind of engineering questions, you can run into all sorts of disappointments, so I'm speculating here, but this is our intention, and we intend to be able to do it. And remember, there are many applications for this. Imagine a power-up system for satellites, so they no longer have to run out of energy or have solar panels damaged by micrometeorites, you could significantly extend the lifespan of satellites and save a huge amount of money. If you had these devices, these energy systems could eventually be present in every device, so that each device would no longer need to be plugged in. Finally, you could have a construction where houses wouldn't even have wiring. Every lamp and every device would have its own power source. This device is efficient and miniaturizable, if such a word exists - so you could do this, and you could have every object manufactured with its own power source, which would completely change the way architecture and construction are done. Of course, the list doesn't stop there, but our goal is to be able to do it at least with a stable, usable, first-generation system, certainly within a period of one to one and a half years. I would like to think earlier, but knowing how things go in the world, it could very well take that long or a little more. I warn you: we don't want to take too long. We will aggressively capitalize, inject funds into this project, so that it can be done, and we can reduce the timeline, because frankly, Tom Bearden and I discussed this just before meeting with members of the Senate Environmental Committee. He said that if these new technologies don't start coming off the assembly lines like sausages by the first quarter, or around that time, 2004, given that the biosphere is so strained, given the geopolitical tensions, we could simply be behind schedule. So, I think it's a race against the clock, and we really have to make this project succeed. I hope this technology will stand up to scrutiny. I can't say at this stage. I can say that the on-site tests were extremely promising, and I hope it will withstand the required reproducibility studies and scientific analysis in our society, and that our team demands, so it will be done in the next few months, and we hope for the best.

GN: Okay. And you will continue with your disclosure project, I suppose.

SG: Yes, this is the first part of it, and in fact, it's one of the major disclosures. Remember, UFOs are secret not because people are so afraid of aliens, but because the UFOs themselves work with energy and propulsion systems that would replace the need for oil and gas. So, discretion comes mainly from greed, not from security.

GN: Very well. Thank you, Steven. Stay in touch! Dr. Steven Greer. Just go to my website and then to his. He has two websites: disclosureproject.org and seaspower.com...

End of the hour

I had tried to contact him before he revealed his sensational information.

From Dr. Jean-Pierre Petit (France) to Steven Greer, December 2, 2002

Dear Sir,

I am part of the French CNRS (Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique). I am 65 years old and I am a "Research Director." I studied from 1958 to 1961 at the École Nationale Supérieure de l'Aéronautique de Paris. Then, I worked as a test engineer on solid propellant rockets (submarine missiles).

In 1965, I joined French research and built MHD (magnetohydrodynamic) converters (many years before they became the main sources of electricity for combat space stations).

In 1972: astrophysicist, theoretical cosmology, geometry.

I have written 32 books.

That's my CV. In 1975, I began to be interested in MHD propulsion and published several articles on the subject. I directed a doctoral thesis on the cancellation of shock waves by Lorentz force field action. This was obviously closely related to UFO technology. Articles presented at international MHD congresses (Moscow 1983, Tsukuba, Japan, 1987, Beijing, China, 1990).

I am about to publish a book, at the beginning of 2003 (January), titled "UFOs and American Secret Weapons." I think the content of this book provides elements related to what you say in the disclosure project. I will try to summarize it briefly.

• I was told that in 1947, the United States recovered a "non-conventional vehicle" at Roswell. This vehicle was not designed to travel from one star to another. It was simply a hypersonic shuttle. For reasons not specified, this vehicle crashed and was recovered by the US military. Immediately, this gave the US authorities the absolute proof that UFOs were vehicles from other planets. The government decided to try to extract technologies from this vehicle and to mislead other countries. This is why great attention was paid to showing the UFO subject as crazy and ridiculous. This policy is still active in Europe. The goal was to use the alien technology to build new weapons, and only that (...). In the early 1970s, they began to understand that MHD (magnetohydrodynamics) had a link with UFOs. This does not make interstellar travel possible, but corresponds to a shuttle flight, for example. Then, the Americans decided to develop MHD in deep secrecy, while managing to convince other countries that these techniques could not bring very interesting things. They let the civilian MHD (oriented towards electricity production) starve, and it finally died. At the same time, they developed MHD torpedoes, for example. In 1984, I went to the United States and attended some international (civilian) MHD congresses. The atmosphere was quite sad. People claimed that their government was definitely not interested in MHD. I remember a man named Solbes, working with Kerrebro

Open letter from a group of French scientists to the Initiator of the disclosure project. **
Introduction.**
We are a group of French scientists. We have read the text of Dr. Greer on the disclosure website and were impressed by his remarks. We are convinced, like him, that some nations, and in particular the United States, may have extracted from UFO files, recovered UFO crashes, and possible contacts with aliens, information that has led to new scientific knowledge. We will go further to discuss the evaluation of the progress made based on this information. The question is: "How far have they gone?" We have precise information on the secret American programs related to hypersonic aircraft, whether it is the spy plane Aurora or a long-range hypersonic bomber, the B2 being only a camouflage. The technical data we have allow us, in this specific case, to support our claims. These technologies were directly derived from the analysis of the debris recovered at Roswell, which was a hypersonic spacecraft and not an interstellar vehicle. We regret that this reverse engineering has been applied only for military purposes, because these techniques could have found a much better use: on the one hand, a completely reusable space launcher, much more efficient and less costly than conventional rockets; on the other hand, a commercial hypersonic aircraft.

Possible synthesis of antimatter.

In addition, it is very likely that the Americans have mastered a mass production technique of antimatter, this latter - and not the "vacuum energy" - being the future quasi-magical, inexhaustible energy, coming from nowhere; unless considering the transformation of matter into antimatter by thermonuclear compression as a way of "extracting energy from the vacuum." I specify that once produced in this way, antimatter can be used to produce more. No nuclear explosion is necessary at each start. However, this technology places between the hands of humanity incredibly destructive bombs, much more powerful than the most powerful thermonuclear weapons currently available. It also brings a risk of direct war, because very small amounts of antimatter can be stored in crystals under very stable electrostatic confinement; this allows the manufacture of small bombs - "buckminsterfullerene balls" - the size of an egg, including the thermal shielding, with a power equivalent to 40 tons of TNT. Thanks to their relatively limited power and the fact that no waste is produced, these bombs could be easily used. Instead of dropping high-power bombs on isolated targets, which would raise large amounts of dust in the upper atmosphere and cause nuclear winter effects, it would be possible to spread a large number of these antimatter bombs and cause equivalent damage, while avoiding the dust rising to high altitude and triggering a nuclear winter. We think that the United States already has a considerable number of such weapons, capable of completely reducing countries to ashes, and we fear that they may soon be implemented discreetly on a smaller scale. This takes us far away from the positive applications that humanity could benefit from through such technology, and which, as Dr. Greer rightly says, could produce "deserts in bloom."

Problem of raw material and waste.

We think that the alien spacecraft that visit us use antimatter, stored on board or synthesized, as the main energy source. This basic energy could be used for a wide variety of effects. One of the most useful is mastering the transmutation of materials, thus allowing the synthesis of any type of atom at will. Combined with a very advanced nanotechnology, this would allow the synthesis of extremely complex systems without human intervention, that is, without "work." Conversely, any system composed of atoms could be converted into neutral waste such as helium, a typically ideal waste. If we survive the coming century, this will be our future technology. If such a set of techniques were completed by a more comprehensive biological approach than that currently practiced on Earth, the human being would have the keys to an age of gold within reach.

Current state of technology on Earth.

We do not know how much these technologies have been developed on Earth. To date, we can only strongly suspect that the synthesis of antimatter by thermonuclear compression was achieved in the United States towards the end of the sixties; we will come back to this later. Another problem raised by Dr. Greer is the reduction, cancellation or even inversion (anti-gravity) of the weight of machines. We consider this as feasible. This is the technique used by UFOs when they remain suspended without moving the air. In our opinion, this can only be understood through a major paradigm shift, a different way of conceiving space and matter. But this remains speculative, and we also suggest returning to it later. The control of anti-gravity could obviously be applied to civil transport, but far beyond, we think it would open the way to distant space travel. Again, we will return to this topic at the end of this document.

Our comments on the Space Energy Access Systems.

Although the sentiment that inspired this project is commendable, we strongly doubt its chances of success. We think that its applications (unlimited energy production, anti-gravity), even physically conceivable, would require extremely expensive advanced technologies. As a comparison, one could imagine that the Foundation offers a full bag of gold to any man from antiquity who succeeds in making a plane carry three passengers beyond six miles. We are skeptical about the compatibility of such techniques with soft technologies accessible to amateurs or moderate-sized laboratories. In our opinion, such developments could only be considered by large laboratories with considerable funds, for which a million-dollar prize would be a trivial sum compared to the cost of these researches. Consequently, such laboratories would inevitably be linked to the military-industrial complexes. At best, the supporters of such a project would be rewarded with interesting theoretical ideas, but without practical exploitable results. This is our opinion, of course we could be wrong.

Our response to the Disclosure Manifesto.

Although we are not able to submit to Dr. Greer plans for a machine producing unlimited energy or capable of canceling the force of gravity, we can, however, present solid arguments in favor of his campaign against the diversion of technologies by the military-industrial complexes, escaping the American political power and dedicated to serving a few who seek to dominate the world by force. The elements we have are related to the high-speed underwater propulsion and the construction of long-range hypersonic aircraft, these two techniques being based on what is called magnetohydrodynamics (MHD).

General remarks on MHD.

MHD has been the subject of sustained research in the sixties, the civil sector obviously not being accessible to the public. The goal was then to produce electricity by direct MHD conversion, using as primary energy fossil fuels - called "open cycles" - or energy produced by high-temperature reactors (HTR). In both cases, the research teams encountered the fact that gases at "technological" temperatures, even seeded with substances with low ionization potential like cesium, are not sufficiently conductive. Below 3000°K, their electrical conductivity is too low. The Russians pushed this MHD electricity production technique as far as possible with their U-25 generator, which burns a mixture of hydrocarbons and pure oxygen. But this civilian-oriented research was eventually abandoned. Another attempt was made with two-temperature gases (in which the electronic gas has a higher temperature than the atomic gas). This was not possible in a molecular environment containing a lot of carbon dioxide (result of combustion). Indeed, this molecule is easily excited by collisions with electrons. The result was a large loss of energy by radiation (radiative de-excitation). This two-temperature system was therefore limited to closed cycles where the conversion fluid was a rare gas: helium, seeded with cesium, used to cool the core of a high-temperature reactor (1500°K). It should be noted that these reactors were never built or tested. The atomic scientists only thought about their possible construction, and thank God, it never happened. This research ran into something that completely destroyed the performance of the generators by making the plasma very inhomogeneous: it was an instability discovered in 1964 by the Russian Velikhov. These preliminaries may seem strange, but they explain why civilian MHD research was abandoned in many countries, except in the United States and Russia, where military MHD was simultaneously developed in great secrecy. In Russia, the father of military MHD was Andrei Sakharov. His student was none other than Velikhov, the innovator of the Soviet-style star wars, and the main advisor to Putin for advanced weapons.

Description of American and Russian hypersonic MHD torpedoes.

For a long time, the United States and the USSR had undeniable evidence that UFOs were of extraterrestrial origin. The Americans had recovered at least one hypersonic vehicle that crashed at Roswell, and it is very likely that the Russians also collected an equivalent amount. It was only in the 1970s that the Americans understood that one of the key elements of the Roswell vehicle's operation was MHD. They also understood that military MHD had a strategic importance, and they launched an intense disinformation campaign, both inside and outside the country, to steer researchers away from what they claimed was a dead end. I obtained this information because I have been closely involved, since 1965, in French civilian MHD projects. I built a Faraday linear generator, based on a combustion shock tube, producing several megawatts of power for 200 microseconds, with a magnetic field of two teslas. Having overcome the Velikhov instability, we managed to obtain the first stable two-temperature conditions, and this was presented at the 1967 Warsaw international conference. But despite this success, in the early 1970s, in our own country as well as elsewhere, this research was abandoned. It should be noted that our team achieved a jet gas speed gain of 5,500 m/s over a distance of less than 4 inches, with argon flows at 10,000°K entering a Faraday accelerator at 2,750 m/s under a pressure of one bar. But at the time, no one in France realized the military implications of what would become, elsewhere, a high specific impulse MHD propulsion. If I remember correctly, I traveled to the United States in 1984 to participate in an international MHD meeting in Boston. The Russians presented their Pavlovsky generator, one of many versions of the flux compression generators tested in the 1950s by Sakharov's team, which later became the typical power system for their directed energy weapons (electron beams and lasers). In addition to this novelty, representatives from various countries, including American researchers (the conference was organized by J.F. Louis of AVCO), lamented the loss of interest of their governments. And yet, we were unaware that during the three years prior, the Americans had already operated their first MHD torpedoes at 1,000 knots; we found out about it many years later. Today, in countries with advanced technology, propeller torpedoes have been abandoned for exactly thirty years. The powder propulsion proved to be more efficient and gave rise to vehicles such as the American Supercav or the Russian Sqwal.

Russian rocket torpedo Sqwal (250 knots)

The British currently have a similar weapon, the Spearfish. In these torpedoes, a hot gas is ejected from the nose of the device, vaporizing the surrounding seawater. The torpedo then moves in a water vapor envelope; the resulting reduction in friction allows speeds between 200 and 250 knots. The trajectory control is achieved through the pole emerging from the nose after launch. The direction is ensured by modulating the exhaust gases from the nozzles surrounding the main nose, powered by the gas generator located at the front. Today, these devices are however outdated, even though countries like France do not yet have them. The American and Russian MHD torpedoes also have a solid propellant rocket motor. The divergent acts as an MHD converter, producing a large amount of electrical energy. This energy powers a wall accelerator, the main description of which is attached to reduce weight. Such a system strongly sucks in water; the concept of viscous drag is therefore no longer appropriate, because the rear flow is not only eliminated, but even reversed; which opens the way to very high speeds. These speeds, estimated today at about 1,600 to 1,900 knots, allow the torpedoes to reach their targets in a few seconds. It is easy to understand the major strategic advantage brought to any nation possessing these torpedoes, as it could destroy strategic enemy nuclear submarines in a few seconds, the most dangerous weapons of all. They are generally positioned as close as possible to their potential targets to reduce the range of the ballistic flight, thus reducing the chances of interception. In reality, the destruction of these missile-carrying submarines would probably be the initial act of war for any nation with advanced technology. China does not yet have them. In 1996, the Russians tried to demonstrate their machine nicknamed "The Big One," with a one-meter caliber, because they hoped to sell it. Such a technological transfer would, in the long term, constitute a great threat to global security, and informed of the transactions, the Americans boarded and sank the Kursk, which was to, in the presence of a Chinese general, perform the demonstration. Fearing that this would be discovered, the Russians closed all the hatches of the submarine (by remote order sent from the Peter the Great cruiser, the admiral of maneuvers), leaving the entire crew to perish and later recovering the wreck. The MHD torpedo and its wall accelerator propulsion thus constitute one of the first military applications of MHD derived from the in-depth analysis of the Roswell debris.

American hypersonic machines. Aurora and the antipodal hypersonic bomber.

Aerial transport machines have remained to be designed. From Mach 3, the air compression behind the shock generates significant heat. By going to static, it becomes possible to reach higher Mach levels. One can then, around Mach 6, consider a hypersonic combustion engine (scramjet), where the fuel and oxidizer (hydrogen and liquid oxygen) flow along the leading edge to cool it. But the examination of the Roswell vehicle provided a much better solution, which led to the Aurora machine, which made its first flight in 1990 at Groom Lake. This very ingenious aircraft can take off on its own, accelerate and gain altitude, reach 6,000 knots at 180,000 feet, then become satellite with conventional rockets. Two very different operational modes are then required. Initially, Aurora - whose Russian version Ajax, designed by Fraistadt, was never built due to lack of funding - resembles a conventional fighter jet. Four non-afterburning turbojets are suspended under a strongly curved wing, with a completely flat top and a highly raised canard tail.

Aurora in subsonic and moderate Mach flight

Aurora then reaches Mach 3 and the air flow at the engine changes. The lower air intakes close. The plane then flies in a low-pressure air, which is easier to ionize. An air intake opens on the top, in front of which a set of parallel electrodes forms a wall MHD generator. Since this section functions as a generator, the air is slowed down and recompressed (by Lorentz forces). A continuous deceleration occurs, without shock wave and with moderate heating, until the gas can be directed to the inlet of a conventional turbojet, even though the plane is flying at 6,000 knots at about 180,000 feet altitude. Very high voltages are generated by the Hall effect. In these wall converters, the Americans use superconducting systems developing 12 teslas. The Velikhov instability is controlled by magnetic confinement. The high voltage is used for

Thus, the machine, which is hidden by the B2, is capable of taking off from the United States, reaching any point on the planet, and then returning to land in the United States in one night and four hours, even if the target is on the other side of the world, 10,800 nautical miles away. Bombing missions have been carried out in Europe and Afghanistan, the latter being mentioned as 40-hour subsonic flights, requiring six in-flight refuelings, most of which took place over Russia, which the planes had to cross. Considering the vulnerability of an aircraft during refueling, who would be naive enough to believe such a version? Also note that the B2s shown have no bunks allowing crew members to rest. Could a pilot sit for forty hours on a seat? Visit my website http://www.jp-petit.com for a file on the B2. In many areas, the United States tries to hide its military technological advances. They have a hypersonic drone whose air intake is controlled by a similar process. On the photos they show, the radar-invisible air intakes could absolutely not function if the plane had to move at supersonic speeds.

The X-47A

American documents are generally silent on the speeds of these planes, but even if they were invisible, it's hard to imagine that the Americans build subsonic combat drones! These few elements (but there are many others, including about microwave weapons, crowd control systems, etc.) could draw the reader's attention to the fact that the United States would have indeed gained a significant advantage in weaponry by using information extracted from UFO observations and reverse engineering of recovered debris. I agree with Dr. Greer. I think that as soon as the United States had directed energy weapons, they deliberately shot down UFOs to analyze them.

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Why the United States is suspected of possessing antimatter bombs.**

The flux compression generators, such as those tested by Sakharov in the 1950s, are now known to the public. These are the very generators that powered the E-bombs and cruise missiles used during the Gulf War. Specialists know that these generators (see Appendix &&&) can also be used to compress objects to extremely high pressures (25 megabars in 1952) and accelerate them to very high speeds (50 km/s in 1952). By the late 1960s, Americans had considered operating these systems using low-yield atomic bombs (1 kt TNT equivalent) as explosives. The pressures achieved were such that they managed, in this kind of "laboratory," to reproduce conditions similar to those of the Big Bang, with matter transforming into antimatter. Energy production proved to be a hundred times greater than expected. This fact was kept secret. The Russians and Chinese later attempted to replicate these experiments but failed due to insufficient high-quality superconductors. Meanwhile, Americans use small amounts of antimatter to accelerate silicon vapor to 500 km/s in magnetohydrodynamic (MHD) accelerators used for space propulsion. Thanks to these engines, they have accelerated space probes to 100 km/s and achieved near-complete exploration of the Solar System over the past five years. They have tested antimatter bombs in which highly powerful charges were synthesized on-site at the moment of impact. The first tests of these fully oversized bombs—too powerful to be tested on Earth—were conducted by sending them toward the Sun. For this, high-specific-impulse MHD propulsion bombs were launched on trajectories significantly inclined relative to the ecliptic plane in order to join a known family of comets. Tests continued with shots aimed at Jupiter. Again, the bomb modules were directed so as to be indistinguishable from comet debris. Initially loaded onto the military shuttle Atlantis, the modules were delivered to location by an MHD-propelled cargo ship, which was then self-destructed. The modules created a magnetosphere simulating cometary outgassing. They penetrated Jupiter’s upper atmosphere at 100 km/s thanks to their MHD shielding system. The synthesis of antimatter via thermonuclear compression, followed by instantaneous explosion, caused the impacts to be mistaken for fragments of comets. Subsequent launches were directed toward Jupiter's moons, such as Io and Europa. Each time, Galileo—which had been placed in orbit precisely to monitor the tests—did not transmit images back to Earth, at least according to the official version. It suffered multiple failures, depriving Earthlings of close-up views of Jupiter’s moons.

An open question.

The purpose of these tests remains mysterious; are they anti-comet weapons? Some astronomers believe that during the formation of the Solar System, a terrestrial planet was ejected by tidal forces into a highly eccentric, long-period orbit (2,000 to 3,000 years), at a significant angle relative to the ecliptic. This planet would also have been shattered into a vast number of fragments upon passing within the Roche sphere of the object from which it was ejected. The periodic return of this cloud of fragments—comet- or asteroid-sized and thus undetectable beyond Jupiter’s distance—could pose certain problems. Did extraterrestrials provide Americans with the means to accelerate their scientific and technical knowledge, enabling them to master the destruction of these objects between 2020 and 2030? Was the Roswell crash a deliberate hoax, intentionally abandoned to trigger this acceleration? Any hypothesis is conceivable. We must keep in mind that if such a threat existed, one would need to launch a projectile on a collision course with an object moving at 40 km/s; conventional propulsion would be useless, as the projectile would then have to perform a half-turn to follow the target in formation. One would then need to carve a path several kilometers long using an antimatter jet in order to detonate a charge of several thousand megatons at the object’s center, fragmenting it into debris smaller than one meter, which would burn up in the atmosphere. Were the tests conducted on Jupiter, Io, and Europa part of such a plan? In reality, we know nothing about our Solar System or the future of our Earth. In France, our group has received several phone calls warning of approaching comets, always including precise dates of perihelion—well before these objects could be detected by terrestrial telescopes.

On antigravity.

Our theoretical cosmology research, inspired by information received through contact with extraterrestrials, led us to construct a cosmological model based on two universes, developing ideas advanced by Andrei Sakharov in 1976: the cosmology of twin universes. We believe he also had contact with extraterrestrials. Simply read the strange terms in the conclusion of his Nobel Prize speech, delivered by his companion Helena Bonaire in Sweden. This model consists of a double universe or twin universe. Australian researchers Foot and Volkas are now pursuing a similar path, which they call "mirror universes" (articles published in Physical Review). We have shown that the "apparent mass" of the "twin universe" is negative, meaning that twin matter repels our own, while two particles of twin matter attract each other mutually, in accordance with Newton’s law. This repulsion explains the re-acceleration of the expansion of our universe, while slowing down the expansion of the twin universe. When traveling vast interstellar distances, spacecraft use the twin universe as a kind of "express subway." In this universe, extremely rarefied in regions adjacent to ours, distances are shortened and the speed of light is greatly increased. This makes space travel possible, provided the principle holds: "It is illegal to exceed the speed of light in the universe in which you are traveling." An American team is currently working on an idea to locally modify the value of the speed of light; the concept of "warp propulsion." Our approach is different and far more advanced. With the help of extraterrestrials, it took us years to begin understanding how this works, and describing it would require pages. In principle, the vehicle’s mass must be transferred to the twin universe. When such an operation occurs near Earth, the planet becomes invisible to the spacecraft but acts on it as a negative mass, repulsive. If stations in our universe and in the region adjacent to the twin universe are rapidly alternated, this is not detected by an observer, but in one phase the spacecraft falls under Earth’s gravity, while in another it rises due to Earth’s repulsion. Overall, this amounts to an apparent cancellation of the vehicle's weight, regardless of its mass. This is our interpretation of what is called antigravity. We do not know whether extraterrestrials provided humans with clues about these techniques.

Conclusion.

Let us stick to what we already know. We are deeply concerned by Dr. Greer’s text. It is clear that a group of humans possesses scientific and technical knowledge far ahead of the rest of the world. How did they acquire this knowledge, and why? Is this simply a consequence of the crash of an extraterrestrial craft at Roswell? Is there a much more complex plan behind all this? Have there been contacts between extraterrestrials and this group? What are their respective goals? Is the dominance of this human group over the rest of the planet merely a side effect of an attempt to help humanity survive the upcoming passage of a swarm of planetary fragments? We would like to know. Would humanity finally gain some wisdom upon realizing it is not alone, and, by using the technology that enables it, transform its planet into an Eden? In any case, we believe it is time to bring those who hold the secrets into the light, and this is precisely the purpose of our approach to the Disclosure Project.

December 2002

Prof. Jean-Pierre Petit,
Research Director at CNRS, Astrophysicist, expert in MHD and theoretical cosmology. (Translation: André Dufour)

References:

(1) J.P. Petit: « Is Supersonic Flight Possible? » Eighth International Conference on MHD Power Generation. Moscow 1983.

(2) J.P. Petit & B. Lebrun: « Shock Wave Cancellation in a Gas by Action of the Lorentz Force ». Ninth International Conference on MHD Power Generation. Tsukuba, Japan, 1986

(3) B. Lebrun & J.P. Petit: « Shock Wave Annihilation by MHD Action in Supersonic Flows. Quasi-One-Dimensional Stationary Analysis and Thermal Blocking ». European Journal of Mechanics; B/Fluids, 8, n°2, pp.163-178, 1989

(4) B. Lebrun & J.P. Petit: « Shock Wave Annihilation by MHD Action in Supersonic Flows. Stationary Two-Dimensional Non-Isothermal Analysis. Anti-Shock Criterion, and Shock Tube Simulations for Isothermal Flows ». European Journal of Mechanics, B/Fluids, 8, pp.307-326, 1989

(5) B. Lebrun: « Theoretical Approach to the Suppression of Shock Waves Forming Around a Sharp Obstacle in an Ionized Argon Flow ». Thesis n°233. University of Poitiers, France, 1990.

(6) B. Lebrun & J.P. Petit: « Theoretical Analysis of Shock Wave Annihilation by a Lorentz Force Field ». International Symposium on MHD, Beijing 1990.

Annex 1: MHD Annex
3 (MHD Torpedo)

January, February 2003: No Response

I contacted Debbie Foch several times, asking if my presentation had been read by a member of Dr. Greer’s scientific team (from a technical standpoint, I had uploaded this presentation to my server, making it easily accessible; indeed, anyone knowing the website address could download it). No response. I tried multiple times. In January, she claimed she was on vacation for two weeks. Eventually, someone gave me Dr. Greer’s secretary’s email address, to whom I reported the existence of this document: she could have downloaded it without issue. Still no response.

We can now wonder what is happening here. There are only a few possible explanations, considering Dr. Greer’s recent and spectacular revelations during his radio interview.

1. Greer was indeed informed of a revolutionary discovery made by a non-physicist (...), a discovery capable of flooding our planet with free energy in an incredibly short time from an inexhaustible source.
2. Greer, due to his total naivety, was exploited by a clever fraudster. However, if this is true, then all members of his scientific team must necessarily be victims of the same fraud. At any rate, this hypothesis would completely discredit the Disclosure Project and all its ambitions: discovering a source of free energy and drawing public attention to secret American programs, possibly stemming from ambiguous relations with "extraterrestrials." All actions by Dr. Greer would then be mixed with the fantasies of Star Trek, Mars Attacks, Independence Day, etc., in public perception, and this discredit would subsequently affect anyone else advocating similar positions.
3. Greer was fully aware of the real objectives of Disclosure, which were first to attract public attention by shouting "You are being kept in the dark," then to destroy the foundations of the project by discrediting himself—a venture where all participants could have been well compensated.

Let us examine a particular aspect of this affair: Even before Dr. Greer founded his company to study how to extract energy from empty space, his initial statement had excited all scientists linked to supposed secret projects to come. He claimed these secret projects were hoarding scientific and technical knowledge worldwide, thus preventing significant progress for humanity. A few testimonies from former government officials followed, but they were of little importance. In reality, no one ever spoke publicly. My question: Was this maneuver initiated to bring out the talkers so they could be identified as such and "eliminated"—"eliminated" being the term used in Greer’s initial statement? In this regard, it is evident that my information could not have been included on the Disclosure website, as these insights were not meant to become public knowledge and might have encouraged others to take similar initiatives. This is now when we understand why they did not react at all.

It is indeed difficult to believe that all members of the Disclosure scientific team, including several physicists, are fools incapable of understanding. Moreover, I generally have a reputation for explaining things in a simple and comprehensible manner. I would have expected a member of the Disclosure team to send me a letter within months of receiving my knowledge, saying: "I am the physicist assigned by Dr. Greer to evaluate your information. Could you please answer the following questions...?"

To date, I have received no response, and over time, the hope of receiving one has faded further. I suggest my readers write (in English) to Dr. Greer and Debbie Foch, and send me a copy of their letters. I will also publish all responses received on my website.

I do not believe this Disclosure initiative is truly transparent. I consider it rather a generalized disinformation policy. Magnetohydrodynamics is a very specific field. All the information I detailed in my book

Albin Michel Editions, 22 rue Huygens, 75014 Paris, France

Jean-Pierre Petit

"UFOs and Secret American Weapons," (available only in French for now)

January 2003, ISBN 2 226 1316-9

has meaning. Regarding the B2, you might have witnessed a rather strange phenomenon apparently linked to a powerful electrical discharge occurring at transonic speed, if you watched the film available on Northrop Grumman’s website. At the same time, it should be noted that the Biefeld-Brown effect has attracted considerable attention, an effect some people are not hesitant to link to a phenomenon of antigravity. Numerous articles are available online, suggesting that the B2 and other vehicles part of current test programs actually use antigravity. Pages and pages on this topic are available on the internet. Less has been written about MHD, and

SG: And there's no question that the situation we're facing around the world today and the vulnerability of so many nations is related to our unnecessary addiction and dependence on fossil fuels—oil, coal, things of this sort. And these technologies, which have been so long suppressed, they're almost legendary. But I have to tell you, the other important thing—and anyone technical listening to this will know what I'm talking about—we have seen in the last few years a number of devices that looked very promising, but they don't put out energy in a form that's usable. This thing, if you can imagine as I've described it operating, put out energy at 60 hertz, 110 volts, correct amperage, ran whatever we wanted to plug into it and did so for as long as we left it to do so. Now this is something which, in all my experience going all over the world studying this, I have never witnessed anything like this!

We can see no explanation in the way of a hoax for this and the scientist is completely without guile, honest, straightforward and it was an honor to be with this person. I felt like I was in the presence of someone like Tesla as I saw this person work and to see my science advisor, Dr. Ted Loder, who is a tenured professor of science at the University of New Hampshire, there working beside the man who very openly showed everything and let everything be hooked up by our scientific team. It was just an extraordinary experience and I just hope and I pray and I hope others will be praying with us that we can be guided aright to get this out as quickly as possible to a world that, at this virtually the twelfth hour, certainly needs to find some way of living on this planet without cannibalizing the Earth that sustains us.

GN: Steven, I sense this air of immediacy coming from you. Have you or has this inventor been threatened at all about this?

SG: No, not at all, and the reason we haven't is that immediately, I have moved this into some very high circles. I mean, you know we have in our network—in the Disclosure Project network and in the corporate entity, the Space Energy Access Systems, which by the way, the website for that is seaspower.com. We have access to virtually anyone of significance in the world today. I mean, literally not six degrees of separation, not really one degree of separation, and we are beginning to notify the correct people that such a thing exists. It would be very very difficult, with me talking on this show tonight and with the phone calls we've made this week, quite frankly, for this thing to disappear. So we have not received those threats.

Remember, in 2001, we had over a hundred military and intelligence witnesses and their testimony put out in book and video form and many of them with top secret SDI-TK clearances, holding very sensitive information. Not a single one of them were ever visited and told to be quiet and the reason they haven't is because we have strategically created security around what we're doing such that it would be extremely dangerous for that group to do that. However, the reason I feel it very important for the public to know this, and everyone listening needs to refer this show to their friends—very important because I think that people need to understand that the kinds of operations that have kept these things secret do so only in the shadows. They cannot do it in a spotlight shining on them. They function only like vampires in the dark shadows and in the darkness of night. And if we put this thing out into the light and the people understand what it's worth to the future of humanity and to our children's children's children, the people will not let it be suppressed again.

GN: All right, Steven. Stay with us because I want to chat with you a little bit about how this kind of energy actually works and how soon you think in terms of it being a reality, could get into households. I'm George Noory. Stick with me. This is Coast to Coast A.M.

(Commercial break)

GN: Welcome back to Coast to Coast. I'm George Noory with Dr. Steven Greer. Steven, because of your heavy involvement in really defining proof of extraterrestrial existence, and what you know, what are the possibilities that this individual who has invented this apparatus might have reverse-engineered it from some source up there?

SG: Zero.

GN: OK

SG: Yeah, I'm very confident that's not the case. In fact, that's one of the criteria we have is that the pedigree, or intellectual property pathway, has to be clean so that it can safely be brought out to the public without the risk of it being legitimately held back by some interests. In this case, I have high confidence that this is a clean pedigree. And, what's more, that the technology is extraordinarily simple. Now, of course, I guess the genius in all simple things is to understand how to do it. And I don't pretend to know that. This is—I tell people—I remember when I was at the Pentagon doing a briefing for the head of the Defense Intelligence Agency I said, you know, "I'm just a country doctor here in Virginia."

GN: (chuckles)

SG: And you know, really, I don't pretend to be a physicist or theoretician. We have some very good people who are and who would understand that better, but I can certainly say that this particular inventor, I think that there is zero chance that he discovered this from anything other than his own ability to experiment—the good old fashioned empirical scientific method—and came up with this after many many years of looking into it. But the astonishing thing is the relative simplicity of it. I know that this device had to have weighed less than twenty pounds, that it was small, no more than a foot to foot and a half in diameter. We could see straight through it, see all the components of it, no hidden battery or energy sources and it operated as I described it. So, this of course meets the criteria of what we've been looking for and wanting to get protected in our network and get it disseminated and secured and out to the public, we hope at least in terms of it being in a form that would be very stable and functioning and easy to use. If not commercially available, at least something that would be disclosable and transportable to any scientific lab. We hope to have that done in the next few months and known by the public certainly this year and hopefully mid-year. So again, it's hard to say. This is a very very early stage of an important and rather rigorous process on our part, but we're going to go with all due speed.

GN: Why would you rule out its—I don't want to say authenticity—but its use within your organization if something did come from extraterrestrial technologies? So what? If you can get it, and harness it, and use it. What's wrong with that?

SG: Oh no, that would be fine, but if it has been ripped off out of a government lab or out of a classified project...

GN: Ah, I get it!

SG: Which are the ones who are doing all that work, George. We wouldn't want to—we really at this stage wouldn't want to deal with that. Although, because I believe those projects are unconstitutional and illegal, one could probably make the legal case. But it would be an encumbered and difficult pathway and this is why we have been searching for what I call a clean or virginal pathway for these technologies, and indeed this is what I believe we have found. Again, I'm sharing this information very early. Some have said that I shouldn't even be discussing it at this stage. However, I think that for security reasons there's safety in numbers. The thing that has had made most of these inventors disappear and most of these efforts disappear are their obscurity. And so, Coast to Coast A.M. is providing a very important service to humanity by letting the people know about this.

GN: Well, when I was talking to Producer Lisa today, she said, "George, I've talked to Steven before, but I've never heard him this immediate, this energized, where he felt he had to say something and say it now." So I said, "All right, let's set it up. Let's get him on!"

SG: Yeah. No, this was something that was just so astonishing and I have to tell you that I felt like we were walking through history as we saw this thing functioning, and the implications of it—if I can just sort of, in a thumbnail sort of sketch, give you the implications of this. Imagine having free energy so that you could desalinate all the water you need to for agriculture and for returning these vast areas of the Earth that have become desert that used to be lush, could be returned to their original condition. Imagine being able to manufacture things with no cost for the energy component, no fuel costs. Imagine the poverty that could be eliminated and the disease and suffering. Most death and suffering into the world is because basic sanitation, clean water, refrigeration, etc., is not available. This can change all that without building multi-billion dollar power plants with transmission lines. Imagine civilizations that do not have electrification now. Just like people went from having no land line phones to having cell phones, they could go from having no power lines to having these devices in their villages and their areas where they could then have a growing level of prosperity and abundance. All the studies have shown that when civilizations move into greater abundance, and with that greater educational opportunity, that the birth rates go down remarkably from ten or eleven per woman down to two or three. So the Malthusian dilemma of all these teeming large populations booming areas and poverty could be corrected. I mean the implications of this are just enormous. In addition, we know that all manufacturing effluent is largely related to the high cost of energy. We have had—Buckminster Fuller and Archibald MacLeash told me back many years ago in the early seventies, that we already have the technologies to scrub to zero pollution all the manufacturing processes, but they use so darn much electricity that it became a point of diminishing return because the energy sources we were using were polluting.

GN: Of course.

SG: So, in this case, where the energy source is clean and non-polluting and free, you could scrub everything to completely and virtually no pollution into the environment. So you're talking about the ability to literally transform the way humans live on the Earth and therefore lay a real foundation for living together peacefully and eventually going out in space together peacefully. So—

GN: Just, just—go ahead, Steven.

SG: Yes, I mean, so these are the sorts of implications of this kind of breakthrough. Of course, as people say, there will be winners and losers. Well, 99.999% of humanity will be the winners. The Earth will be the winner. Our children's children's children will be the winners. Now there are people who have very key interests in the fossil fuel area and this is not to be trivialized. But I think that our goal is to do this in a way that would protect and empower those segments by having them have some kind of a cushion as these technologies are phased in and the old smokestack technologies are phased out. This can certainly be done if we're wise about it and if the current holders of the existing technologies are wise in allowing the transition to happen in an orderly fashion.

GN: Tuesday, George Bush in his State of the Union address was pushing for the use of hydrogen fuel in cars, which is something I've been jumping up and down for, for years now. But, one of the problems today with the hydrogen fuel is to generate the kind of electricity in order to generate the hydrogen.

SG: That's right.

GN: And that has been a serious problem, so my two-fold question—my question two-fold is will your zero point energy concept—would that work directly in automobiles or could you use it to create the electricity to make the hydrogen for the cars?

SG: Well, the answer is both. In other words, you already have two hundred million cars on the road in America, and six hundred and some million in the world. Those are using oil and gas. The ideal thing to do initially—because most people are not going to yank the engine out of their car and buy a multi-thousand dollar engine.

GN: No, they can't afford it.

SG: So what you want to do is use this free energy to have a way of cracking the hydrogen off of water and then have that hydrogen run the cars. I have just met with an inventor who has a fuel injector that you can screw into where your spark plug goes and the car will run on hydrogen! So this technology would allow that to be feasible what the President called for. So the existing internal combustion cars and trucks could be converted to clean burning hydrogen until such time that all the cars that are made come out with a purely electric propulsion system that would be running off of this generator. So I think that, you know, this can be done. Again, we intend to get this information, when we have the final scientific reports in a few months, to the President and to his inner circle. We certainly can get access to that. And I think that this would be an important thing for the National Security Council, the aspect of it that deals with economic security and energy issues, to know about because there's no question. I mean, whether you're on the left or the right, or whatever, everyone acknowledges today that it is in the long term, and even short term interest of the United States to wean ourselves off of this addictive black gold known as oil. And I think that the sooner that can be done, the sooner we can move on to a new and more hopeful phase in our history.

GN: Zero Point energy results from the principals of quantum mechanics, which has to do with the physics of subatomic phenomena. Would you explain that for us so that most of us can understand just what we're talking about here?

SG: Well, as I understand it, if you look at the space around us, not outer space, just the space in the room where you're sitting. That space and the structure of space and the actually fundamental level at which matter and energy is fluxing out of some very potent field of energy. That's in some type of a sort of homeostasis. And what these technologies do is that it sort of perturbs the homeostasis enough to tap into that baseline energy or that energy that's in the quantum vacuum, some would call it, that's around us, that matter and energy are sort of fluxing in and out of and can tap into it and it's almost like pulling energy out of a reservoir of energy that's there all the time but isn't in a form that can actually be used. What these systems do is tap into that energy and in the case of the device that we saw, actually converts it into usable controlled energy on demand, which was the astonishing thing. I have to admit I have seen some other "over unity" systems where there's more energy coming out than put in, but it was in a form that was not electric power that was easily usable or convertible and therefore wasn't really immediately practical and in some cases people were estimating upwards of fifteen million dollars to get it into a form and an access form that this brilliant inventor had in this very simple system that you could literally pick up with one hand and carry out on a sidewalk and turn things on with. So I think that there's such an enormous body of information on this. If you look, there's a new almost thousand page book that Dr. Tom Bearden has put out that's almost encyclopedic in the information on this and he sent me a copy of it. I'm very grateful to him for that and I encourage people to get it if they have the stomach to go through the details. But I think that many people, as I said, Dr. Gene Mallove, Tom Valone, and many people, have studied this and have written about the fact that this has happened and have done sort of an ethnography of this where they've studied where there have been a whole culture of scientists over the last hundred years who have in fact discovered this and have invented devices that worked like this, but they have all met some terrible fate out of, of course, the big special interests and cartels that would like to keep us all metered to the public utility companies and to the gas pumps and while that's certainly understandable, it's no big surprise that people of vast economic and power and geopolitical interests would do such things. We're at the point now that it cannot go forward any further without jeopardizing the entirety of the human future.

GN: How long had your inventor been working on this project?

SG: Seven years.

GN: That's not bad! That's not bad in R&D [research and development]. Did he ever explain to you why this revelation came to him? Why he decided to do this?

SG: Well, this is an individual who has had a passion for electromagnetism and electricity since apparently age seven. By age ten was taking things apart and coming up with just extraordinary innovative little inventions all on his own, as a ten year old person—child. And now, of course, put his focus on this and also did study the—very carefully the study of the early greats like Tesla and Faraday and Maxwell and what have you. And in fact, apparently, between that knowledge and his own experimentation, intuition, insight—a gift if you want to call it—was able to devise this system. I have to say we were stunned.

I know that three of the members of our board of directors were there, and one of them is a very successful businessman who was just completely in a state of—stunned—because of the implications of this thing. Because this particular businessman was telling me how he spends two hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year just in electric utility bills for his business and I went "My god in heaven! I would like to make that much as a doctor!"

He said, "Yes, that's just my electric utility bill."

I said, "Oh my gosh. Imagine what that would do!" And this person is not General Motors, of course, but what… efficiency it could add to our civilization and the cost reduction it could bring to manufacturing and the ability for each home to have its own—even micro-agricultural greenhouse where you have a computer controlled delivery of water, heat, and what have you, under controlled circumstances. The energy would be free. You could, almost in any climate, have and grow organically almost anything you would need. The rate-limiting thing to most of these developments is the high cost of energy and the very polluting forms of energy. If you change that equation you fundamentally change the way humans live on Earth.

GN: Now realistically, Steven, if you had no obstacles, and you're going to have some, but if you didn't have any, when do you think you might be able to get something like this to market, or at least to a practical test phase?

SG: A practical test phase—we're shooting for two to three months, and out to then a manufacturable prototype after the test phase, perhaps a year or so, and then after that to market. We hope that by the first quarter or mid-2004 these can be made available. Now, of course, we don't know what we're going to encounter and when you get into these sorts of engineering issues you may run into all kinds of disappointments and so I'm speculating here, but this is our intention and we intend to be able to do that. And remember, there are many applications for this. Imagine if you had a power up system for satellites so that you didn't have them failing in their power or having solar panels that had micro-meteorites damaging them, you could extend the life of satellites and save an enormous amount of money. If you had these things, these sort of power systems eventually could be in every appliance so that every appliance wouldn't even need to be plugged in. Eventually you could have construction so homes wouldn't even have wiring. Every lamp and every appliance could have its own power source. This thing is efficient and miniaturizable, if there is such a word—so that you could do this and you would be able to have everything that is made have its own power source and it would completely change the way architecture and construction takes place. Of course the list just goes on and on, but our goal is to be able to do this at least in a generation one stable, usable system, certainly within a year to year and a half. I would like to think sooner, but knowing how things happen in the world, I think it could very well be that long or a bit longer. I would caution we don't want to take too much longer. We are going to be very aggressively capitalizing this, putting the funds into this, so that that can be done and we can collapse the timeframe because, frankly, Tom Bearden and I were discussing this one time just before we were meeting with members of, doing a briefing for, the staff of the senate environment committee. He said that if these new technologies don't begin to roll off of the conveyor belt like sausages by the first quarter, or some time around that, of 2004, given the fact that the biosphere is being so strained, given the geopolitical tensions, we may simply just be out of time. So, I think it's a stroke before midnight and we really need to make this project succeed. I hope that this technology holds up to the scrutiny. I can't say that at this point. I can say that the onsite testing was extremely promising and I'm hopeful that it will hold up to reproduceability studies and to the scientific analysis that are required in our society and which our team requires, so that will be done in the next few months and we will hope for the best.

GN: All right. And you're still going to continue to follow up with your Disclosure Project, I'm sure.

SG: Yes, this is the first part of it and in fact this is one of the big disclosures. Remember, UFOs are secret not because people are so afraid so much of extraterrestrials but because UFOs themselves are running off of energy and propulsion systems that would replace the need for oil and gas. So, the secrecy has been mostly out of greed, not out of a security.

GN: Very good. Thanks Steven. Keep us in touch! Dr. Steven Greer. Just go to my website and link up to his. He has two websites disclosureproject(.org) and seaspower(.com)…

End of hour

I had tried to get in touch with him, before he disclosed his sensational information.

From Dr Jean-Pierre Petit (France) to Steven Greer December 2nd, 2002

Dear Sir,

I belong to the French CNRS (Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique). I am 65 and I am "Directeur de Recherche". I attended in 1958–1961 the French Aeronautical School (École Nationale Supérieure de l'Aéronautique de Paris). Then I worked as a test engineer on solid propellant rockets (missiles for submarines).

1965 I joined the French research and built MHD converters (many years before they would become the main sources of electrical power for space stations).

1972: Astrophysicist, theoretical cosmology, geometry.

I wrote 32 books.

That's for my curriculum vitae. In 1975 I started to be interested in MHD propulsion and published several papers on the subject. I directed a PhD thesis on shock wave cancellation by Lorentz force field action. This was evidently closely related to UFO technology. Papers presented at international MHD meetings (Moscow 1983, Tsukuba, Japan, 1987, Beijing, China, 1990).

I am close to publishing a book, at the very beginning of 2003 (January), whose title is "UFOs and Secret U.S. Weaponry". I think the content of this book brings elements related to what you say in the Disclosure Project. I explain. In 2001 I attended an international meeting devoted to advanced propulsion. There I met US scientists involved in black programs, like Aurora. At the end of the meeting, what I learned there completed my own conclusion on the subject. I will try to resume that as briefly as I can.

• I was told there that the US got some "unconventional" ship in Roswell, 1947. This ship was not designed to cruise from a star to another star. It was just an hypersonic shuttle. For unclear reasons this ship crashed on the ground and was recovered by the US Army. Immediately this brought to the US official the absolute proof that UFOs were vehicles coming from other planets. The government decided to try to extract technology from it and to disinform other countries. That is why great care was taken to show the UFO subject as insane and ridiculous. This policy is still active in Europe. The goal was to use alien technology to make new weapons and only that (...). At the beginning of the seventies they began to understand that MHD (Magneto Hydrodynamics) had something to do with UFOs. It does not make interstellar travel possible but corresponds to shuttle flight, for example. Then the Americans decided to develop MHD in deep secrecy, while succeeding in convincing other countries that such techniques could not bring very interesting things. They let civil MHD (oriented towards electricity production) starve and finally it died. At the same time they developed MHD torpedoes, for example. I went to the USA in 1984 and attended some MHD international (civil) meetings. There, the atmosphere was quite sad. People claimed their government was definitively not interested in MHD. I remember a guy named Solbes, working with Kerrebrock, who said, when he saw me:

• Gentlemen, may I present to you a man who still believes in MHD projects...

and he laughed. But in secrecy the first military applications were already operational. In 2001 I was told in England that the US MHD torpedo cruised at 1000 knots in... 1980. Now its velocity is close to 1500 knots. Very few people know that this weapon is a reality. I know how it is designed and if this corresponds to your Disclosure Project, I can describe it and give all desired technical details.

At the beginning of the 1990s the Americans started to test the spy aircraft "Aurora". This is an extraordinary machine and if you have some place for that (does Disclosure have a website?), I can send you all details about Aurora. This is an hypersonic machine. It takes off by its own, with ordinary turbofans. Then it climbs and cruises at supersonic velocity, up to Mach three. At such velocity and altitude the air inlet which is located down is closed. The supersonic air is driven through another inlet, located on the flat top of the machine. Before the air entry: a wall MHD generator. The gas is slowed down, compressed but not heated. This transformation is achieved without creation of a shock wave. So that this compressed air can be admitted into a... normal turbofan, mixed with kerosene, and so on. The electric power produced by the wall generator is directed to a wall accelerator located just behind the outlet of the motor (four units). An additional thrust is generated. They call it "MHD bypass".

The so-called Hall effect gives high voltage. An electric discharge creates a plasma which protects the leading edge, working like a protecting cushion. In such configuration, Aurora gets a 100,000 ft altitude and 6000 knots velocity. It flies as a "wave rider", surfing on its own shock wave. Then an additional thrust given by rocket transforms it into a low-altitude spy satellite. The re-entry process is operated using wall MHD converter to transform kinetic energy into electricity, moderate heat and radiation. Aurora can take off and land by its own. Aurora is directly derived from the careful study of the Roswell machine. The Russians had the same project, called "Ajax", but not enough money.

On another hand, the B2 are not the "real ones". The machines that are shown to people are nothing but illusions. The "real B2" fly only by night. Their technology is different. They fly at 100,000 feet and 6000 knots but do not create shock waves. They can take off from the US, fly to antipodes, drop bombs and come back in a night. As Aurora, they are completely surrounded by a plasma and are full stealth machines. I can describe these machines too. I talk about all that in my book and if you have somebody who can read French, I can send one book to you in January.

At the middle of the sixties, Americans discovered new sources of energy. They discovered that by accident, operating underground nuclear tests in Nevada. The goal was to compress material by "magnetic compression" (a system invented by Andrei Sakharov in 1952). In the sixties, Sakharov achieved 25 megabars with simple chemical explosives. The US military decided to use a "small fission bomb", but the result was fairly different. The pressure was so high that they synthesized a certain amount of antimatter. Later they discovered how to store this antimatter, in magnetic bottles. These are the source of energy of a new kind of machine, disk-shaped, propelled by MHD, which can cruise at Mach ten at low altitude. It is the "perfect hypersonic cruise missile" that no rocket can bring down.

They can store antimatter in crystals (electrostatic confinement) and have produced billions of "bucky balls", as large as an egg, including its thermal shield for re-entry. Power: 40 tons of TNT. This power is so small that they can... be used (no nuclear winter!). The Americans have produced enough of such bombs that they could destroy a country as large as China. They tested bigger antimatter bombs on other planets. In such weapons, antimatter is not stored in the bomb but synthesized by compression when the bomb hits the target.

They developed high specific impulse MHD accelerators, used for space propulsion. All the solar system was explored in secrecy.

This is weaponry, but if that were used for peaceful purposes, that would be this fantastic source of energy that would "put flowers in deserts". All was derived for military purposes.

By the way, if one has antimatter, he owns enough energy to make transmissions and produce any kind of atom he wants, from the nitrogen of the air or from the stones of the roads. Aliens have no industrial production. Any object can be copied, transformed into many copies, through this technique. That's why they are not interested in our materials and "treasures".

This leads to antigravity systems. We know how they work. It is probably different from what you can imagine. Presently, Americans are searching how to build interstellar vehicles. That's why they came to this international workshop.

I think you are right. They have destroyed UFOs with energy beams. All this is not controlled. We are close to face a "Space Fomalhaut effect".

I am ready to say all that I know. It is up to you. You just say how and where. I hope other scientists will do the same. They must do it.

We have had some contacts with aliens, since 20 years, from time to time. Generally they sent simple letters. Sometimes, rarely, there were short physical contacts. But this is not the most important. They wrote me in 1991 that we must achieve disclosure. I read your text as some sort of call. In answer, no matter is the risk for me. We were trying to set up an organized group in France, but it is hard. People don't care. We have understood since many years that the only goal of French officials was to build weapons. See the Cometa report, which has been translated into English.

I give you my website: http://www.jp-petit.com

and I wait your answer.

I was then contacted by the webmaster of Dr. Greer's website, a lady called Debbie Foch. I offered to provide her with more detailed information and she accepted enthusiastically.
( Please find enclosed the French version of what I sent him before Christmas 2002 ). Please take a look at the following text to see what I sent him.

Open Letter from a Group of French Scientists to the Initiator of the Disclosure Project.

Introduction.

We are a group of French scientists. We have read Dr. Greer's text on the Disclosure website and have been impressed by his remarks. We are convinced, as he is, that certain nations—particularly the United States—have been able to derive from UFO files, recovered crashed UFOs, and possible contact with extraterrestrial beings, information that has led to entirely new scientific knowledge. We will further discuss the assessment of developments achieved based on this information. The question is: "How far have they progressed?" We possess accurate information about American black programs linked with hypersonic aircraft—whether the satellite-capable Aurora spy craft or a hypersonic long-range bomber, for which the B-2 is merely a cover-up. Technical data in our possession allow us, in this particular case, to substantiate our claims. These technologies were directly derived from the analysis of the wreckage recovered at Roswell, which was a hypersonic space shuttle and not an interstellar vehicle. We regret that this reverse engineering has only been applied for military purposes, since these techniques could have found far better uses: one as a fully reusable space launcher—far more efficient and cheaper than conventional rockets—and another as a hypersonic commercial aircraft.

Possible Antimatter Synthesis.

Beyond the above, it is highly probable that the Americans have mastered a large-scale antimatter production technique—this, not "void energy," being the near-magical, inexhaustible future energy source emerging from nowhere; unless one considers the transformation of matter into antimatter via thermonuclear compression as a method of "extracting energy from the void." I would add that once antimatter has been produced in this way, it can be used to generate even more. No nuclear explosion is required at every startup. However, this technology places in humanity’s hands weapons of unimaginable destructive power—far exceeding even the most powerful thermonuclear weapons currently available. It also creates a direct risk of warfare, since extremely small quantities of antimatter can be stored in crystals under highly stable electrostatic confinement, enabling the creation of tiny bombs—"bucky balls"—the size of an egg, including thermal shielding, with explosive power equivalent to 40 tons of TNT. Thanks to their relatively limited yield and the fact that no radioactive waste is produced, these weapons could be readily deployed. Instead of dropping high-power bombs on isolated targets—which would eject vast quantities of pulverized matter into the upper atmosphere and trigger nuclear winter effects—it would be possible to scatter a large number of these mini-antimatter bombs and cause equal damage while preventing dust from rising to high altitudes and thus avoiding the risk of nuclear winter. We believe the United States already possesses a considerable number of such weapons, capable of reducing entire countries to ashes, and we fear these devices will soon be discreetly deployed on smaller scales. This takes us far beyond the positive applications from which humanity could benefit from such technology, as Dr. Greer rightly puts it: "flowering deserts."

The Raw Material and Waste Problem.

We believe that the extraterrestrial vehicles visiting Earth use antimatter—either stored onboard or synthesized—as their primary energy source. This fundamental energy could be applied to a wide range of purposes. One of the most useful applications would be mastering the transmutation of materials, allowing any type of atom to be synthesized at will. Combined with highly advanced nanotechnology, this would enable the synthesis of the most complex systems without human intervention—i.e., without "work." Conversely, any atomic system could be converted into neutral waste such as helium—the ideal form of waste. If humanity survives the next century, this is the picture of our future technology. If such a set of techniques were combined with a more comprehensive understanding of biology than that currently practiced on Earth, humanity would have the keys to a Golden Age within reach.

Current State of Technology on Earth.

We do not know how far these technologies may have been developed on Earth. To date, we can only strongly suspect that antimatter synthesis via thermonuclear compression was achieved in the United States toward the end of the 1960s; we will return to this later. Another issue raised by Dr. Greer is the reduction, suppression, or even inversion (anti-gravity) of machine weight. We consider this feasible. This is the technique used by UFOs when they hover without displacing air. In our opinion, this can only be understood through a major paradigm shift—a different way of comprehending space and matter. But this remains speculative, and we suggest returning to it later. Anti-gravity control could obviously be applied to civilian transportation, but far beyond that, we believe it would open the door to interstellar travel. We will postpone this subject until the end of this paper.

Our Comments on the Space Energy Access Systems.

While we commend the motivation behind this project, we are skeptical about its chances of success. We believe its applications—unlimited energy production, anti-gravity—are physically conceivable but would require extremely expensive advanced technologies. By comparison, one might imagine offering ancient humans a full purse of gold to whoever could fly a plane carrying three passengers over more than six miles. We doubt the compatibility of such techniques with soft technologies accessible to amateurs or moderately sized laboratories. In our view, such developments could only be envisioned by large-scale laboratories with substantial funding, for whom a million-dollar prize would seem negligible compared to the cost of such research. Consequently, such laboratories would inevitably be part of military-industrial complexes. At best, supporters of such a project might receive interesting theoretical ideas—but no practical, exploitable results. This is our opinion, though of course we may be mistaken.

Our Response to the Disclosure Manifesto.

While we are unable to present Dr. Greer with plans for an unlimited energy-producing machine or one capable of suppressing gravity, we can, on the other hand, offer strong arguments in support of his campaign against the diversion of technologies by military-industrial complexes that elude American political oversight and serve a few individuals seeking world domination by force. The elements we are able to provide relate to underwater high-velocity propulsion and the construction of very long-range hypersonic aircraft—both techniques based on what is known as magneto-hydrodynamics, or MHD.

General Remarks on MHD.

MHD has been the subject of sustained research in the 1960s, though civilian research was obviously accessible to the public. The goal at the time was to produce electricity through direct MHD conversion, using either fossil fuels (so-called "open cycles") or energy from high-temperature reactors (HTR). In both cases, research teams encountered the problem that gases at "technological" temperatures—even when seeded with low-ionization-potential substances like cesium—are not sufficiently electrically conductive. Below 3000 K, their electrical conductivity is too low. The Russians advanced this MHD electricity production technique as far as possible with their U-25 generator, which burns a mixture of hydrocarbons and pure oxygen. However, this civilian-oriented research was eventually abandoned. Another attempt used two-temperature gases (where the electron gas has a higher temperature than the atomic gas). This proved impossible in a molecular environment rich in carbon dioxide (a byproduct of combustion), as this molecule is easily excited by electron collisions. The result was significant energy loss through radiation (radiative de-excitation). This two-temperature system was thus limited to closed cycles, using rare gases—such as helium seeded with cesium—as the conversion fluid to cool down the core of a high-temperature reactor (1500 K). Let us emphasize that these reactors were never built or tested. Atomic scientists only theorized about their construction—and thank goodness, they were never realized. This research ran into a problem that completely undermined generator performance by making the plasma highly inhomogeneous: an instability discovered in 1964 by Russian scientist Velikhov. These preliminary details may seem strange, but they explain why civilian MHD research was abandoned in many countries—except in the United States and Russia, where military MHD was simultaneously developed in great secrecy. In Russia, the father of military MHD was Andrei Sakharov. His student was none other than Velikhov—the innovator of the Soviet-style Star Wars program and currently Putin’s chief consultant on cutting-edge weapons.

Description of High-Velocity US and Russian MHD Torpedoes.

For a long time, both the USA and USSR possessed undeniable evidence that UFOs are of extraterrestrial origin. The United States had recovered at least one crashed hypersonic vehicle at Roswell, and it is highly probable that the Russians also collected an equivalent number. It was not until the 1970s that Americans realized one of the key operating elements of the Roswell shuttle was MHD. They also grasped that military MHD held prime strategic importance and launched an intense disinformation campaign—both domestically and internationally—to divert researchers from what they declared to be a dead-end subject. I hold this information because I was closely involved since 1965 in French civilian MHD projects. I built a Faraday linear generator based on a combustion shock tube, producing several megawatts of power for 200 microseconds, under a two-tesla magnetic field. Having overcome the Velikhov instability, we succeeded in achieving the first stable two-temperature operating conditions, which was presented at the 1967 Warsaw International Colloquium. Yet despite this success, in the early 1970s, research was abandoned in France and elsewhere. It is worth noting that our team achieved a gas blast speed increase of 5,500 m/s over a distance of less than 4 inches, using argon flows at 10,000 K input into a Faraday accelerator operating at 2,750 m/s under one bar pressure. But at the time, no one in France realized the military implications of what would elsewhere become an MHD propulsion system with high specific impulse. If I recall correctly, I traveled to the United States in 1984 to attend an international MHD meeting in Boston. The Russians presented their Pavlovsky generator—one of several versions of flux compression generators tested in the early 1950s by Sakharov’s team, which later became the standard feed system for their directed-energy weapons (electron and laser beams). Aside from this novelty, representatives from various countries—including American researchers (the colloquium was organized by J.F. Louis of AVCO)—expressed regret over governments losing interest. Yet we were unaware that three years earlier, the Americans had already operated their first MHD torpedoes at 1,000 knots. We only learned of this many years later. Today, in technologically advanced countries, propeller torpedoes have been abandoned for exactly thirty years. Powder rocket propulsion was soon found to be more efficient, giving rise to machines such as the American Supercav and the Russian Sqwal.

The Russian Sqwal Rocket Torpedo (250 knots)

The British now possess a similar weapon, the Spearfish. In these torpedoes, hot gas is ejected from the nose, vaporizing the surrounding seawater. The torpedo then moves within a sheath of water vapor; the resulting reduction in friction allows speeds of 200 to 250 knots. Course control is achieved via a protruding pole that extends from the nose after launch. Steering is accomplished by modulating the exhausts of nozzles encircling the main propulsion nozzle, fed by a forward gas generator. Today, however, such machines are already outdated—even though countries like France still do not possess them. American and Russian MHD torpedoes also feature a solid-propellant rocket engine. The divergent section functions like an MHD converter, generating a large amount of electrical energy. This powers a wall accelerator—whose principle is briefly described here for lightness. Such a system strongly draws in water; thus, the concept of viscous drag no longer applies, as the wake is not only suppressed but even reversed—opening the path to extremely high speeds. These speeds, estimated today at around 1,600 to 1,900 knots, enable torpedoes to reach targets in mere seconds. It is easy to see the major strategic advantage such weapons provide to any nation possessing them: the ability to destroy an enemy’s strategic nuclear submarines—the most dangerous weapons—within seconds. These submarines are typically positioned as close as possible to their potential targets to minimize ballistic flight range and increase interception chances. In fact, destroying these missile-carrying submarines would likely be the very first act of war for any technologically advanced nation. China does not yet possess such technology. In 1996, the Russians attempted to demonstrate their machine—nicknamed "The Fat One," a one-meter-caliber torpedo—hoping to sell it to China. Such a technology transfer would have posed a grave threat to global security. Upon learning of these transactions, the Americans boarded and sank the Kursk, which was scheduled to demonstrate the torpedo in the presence of a Chinese general. Fearing exposure, the Russians sealed all submarine hatches remotely (via sonar order from the Peter the Great cruiser, flagship of the maneuvers), causing the entire crew to perish, and later recovered the wreck. Thus, the MHD torpedo and its parietal accelerator propulsion system represent one of the earliest military applications of MHD derived from the close analysis of the Roswell wreckage.

American Hypersonic Aircraft: Aurora and the Antipodal Hypersonic Bomber.

From that point onward, aircraft design for air travel remained to be perfected. From Mach 3 upward, air compression behind the shock wave generates significant heating. By shifting to a different configuration, higher Mach levels become possible. Around Mach 6, one can envision a scramjet functioning (hypersonic combustion), where fuel and oxidizer (hydrogen and liquid oxygen) circulate along the leading edge to cool it down. However, the examination of the Roswell vehicle yielded a far superior solution, leading to the Aurora aircraft, which made its first flight in 1990 at Groom Lake. This highly intelligent craft can take off under its own power, accelerate and climb, reach 6,000 knots at 180,000 feet, and then become satellite-capable using conventional rockets. Two very different operating modes are then engaged. Initially, Aurora—whose Russian counterpart, Ajax, designed by Fraistadt, was never built due to lack of funding—resembles a conventional jet plane. Four non-afterburning turbojets are suspended beneath a highly cambered wing with a completely flat upper surface and a sharply raised "duck tail" trailing edge.

Aurora in Subsonic and Moderate Mach Flight

Aurora then reaches Mach 3, and the engine air intake changes. The bottom air intakes close. The plane now flies in low-pressure air, which ionizes more easily. An air inlet opens on the upper side, in front of which a set of parallel electrodes forms an MHD wall generator. Since this section operates as a generator, the air is slowed down and re-compressed (via Lorentz forces). A continuous deceleration occurs without shock waves and with moderate heating, to such an extent that the gas can be directed into the conventional turbojet intake—even though the plane flies at 6,000 knots at approximately 180,000 feet altitude. Very high voltages are generated by the Hall effect. In these parietal converters, Americans use superconducting systems generating 12 teslas. The Velikhov instability is controlled via magnetic confinement. The high voltage is used to create a plasma cushion that protects the leading edge. The electrical power is then used to enhance specific impulse via a wall accelerator located behind the nozzle outlets (MHD bypass system). This is of the "semi-guided" type.

Aurora in Hypersonic Flight

It is designed to function with a fixed expansion coefficient at a given altitude. At lower altitudes, the jet expansion is too strong, causing the plane to exhibit a series of knots and bumps—typical of an "over-depressed" jet.

Classical Over-Depressed Jet

This explains the mysterious photograph taken near Groom Lake, where the plane, seen unusually in daylight, had not yet reached its adaptation altitude.

Photograph of Aurora Jet

Aurora’s lift is generated by the shock wave upon which the plane rides—it is a wave rider. However, Aurora is not meant to operate this way for long, as the formation of this shock wave generates drag, leading to energy waste. Rockets allow the craft either to become satellite-capable at an altitude of 250,000 feet—the atmosphere’s limit—or to execute ballistic leaps, like a pebble bouncing on water. Under these conditions, it becomes a kind of pilotable semi-satellite, similar to the well-known "Silver Surfer." The total plasma envelope renders it completely stealthy. Once satellite-capable at 15,000 knots, it can re-enter at a very slight angle of incidence without needing a degradable thermal shield; the entire surface then functions as an MHD generator. The high voltage produces a forward-protecting plasma cushion; energy is dissipated primarily through radiation. When returning to base, the entire process is reversed: upon approach, the craft is propelled like a conventional plane and can land on a standard runway. This has all been kept secret. The Americans attempt to mislead other nations with rather crude misinformation. They lead Europeans to believe that hypersonic flight is just around the corner—while in fact, they have been mastering these techniques for the past twelve years.

Aurora’s lift is generated by the shock wave upon which the plane rides—it is a wave rider. However, Aurora is not meant to operate this way for long, as the formation of this shock wave generates drag, leading to energy waste. Rockets allow the craft either to become satellite-capable at an altitude of 250,000 feet—the atmosphere’s limit—or to execute ballistic leaps, like a pebble bouncing on water. Under these conditions, it becomes a kind of pilotable semi-satellite, similar to the well-known "Silver Surfer." The total plasma envelope renders it completely stealthy. Once satellite-capable at 15,000 knots, it can re-enter at a very slight angle of incidence without needing a degradable thermal shield; the entire surface then functions as an MHD generator. The high voltage produces a forward-protecting plasma cushion; energy is dissipated primarily through radiation. When returning to base, the entire process is reversed: upon approach, the craft is propelled like a conventional plane and can land on a standard runway. This has all been kept secret. The Americans attempt to mislead other nations with rather crude misinformation. They lead Europeans to believe that hypersonic flight is just around the corner—while in fact, they have been mastering these techniques for the past twelve years.

Model of Aurora X-43A slung under the wing of a B-52, poised in front of a large powder booster

In Flight

The "Pseudo-Aurora" Test Model.

Note that vertical tails contradict stealthiness. But the pointed nose corresponds to the real Aurora. This is a cover-up of technological progress. The civilian version of Aurora would not be a satellite-capable spy plane, but a fully reusable launcher—much cheaper than conventional rockets, which rely solely on motor thrust to overcome drag associated with shock wave generation. What Westerners ignore—and which I will reveal in a forthcoming book—is that the Americans also possess a hypersonic long-range bomber capable of flying at similar speeds and altitudes. Seen from above, these bombers resemble the B-2. The saw-tooth shape of their trailing edge is designed for stability during landing. The shape creates vortices that prevent wingtip lift loss from creeping toward the leading edge (shortly after World War II, this phenomenon caused the crash of Jack Northrop’s flying wing design). The B-2s based at Whitman, supposedly costing $2 billion each, are merely decoys. The real aircraft is not subsonic and has neither cockpit nor any hoods above its four engines. These are entirely embedded within the wing to avoid radar detection of turbine vanes.

US Hypersonic Bomber.

Wall convectors are located on the front sections of the wings ahead of the engines. These systems enable incoming air to be re-compressed without generating shock waves and funnel it into the inlets of conventional turbojets. The aircraft is a subtle combination of regions where the MHD wall converter slows down the gas (acting as an electrical power generator) and others where the gas is accelerated. This system allows complete control over gas flow and eliminates any shock wave—and thus wave drag. If such shock waves remained, the plane could not fly for long due to the energy wasted in creating them. The elimination of shock waves was achieved in 1997, opening the path to the first antipodal flights. In fact, on several aspects, this bomber is more sophisticated than Aurora. For instance, the electrical discharge at the leading edge has a better-controlled geometry, creating a true "virtual" leading edge.

Hypersonic Long-Range Bomber

Thus, the aircraft concealed by the B-2 can take off from the U.S., reach any point on Earth, and return to the U.S. all within one night and four hours—even if the target lies antipodal at 10,800 nautical miles. Bombing missions have already been planned in Europe and Afghanistan, with the latter described as subsonic 40-hour flights requiring six in-flight refuelings—most occurring over Russia, which the planes had to cross. Given the vulnerability of aircraft during refueling, who would be gullible enough to believe such a version? Also note that the B-2s shown have no bunks whatsoever to allow crew members to rest. Could any pilot remain seated for forty hours on an ejection seat? See my website http://www.jp-petit.com for a file on the B-2. In numerous areas, the U.S. attempts to disguise its military technological progress. It possesses a hypersonic drone whose air intake is controlled by a similar process. On the photographs they display, the stealth-inducing air intakes could not possibly function if the plane were moving at supersonic speeds.

The X-47A

American documents are generally silent about the speeds of these aircraft, but even if they were stealthy, it is hard to imagine the U.S. constructing subsonic combat drones! These few elements (though many more exist—particularly concerning microwave weapons, crowd control systems, etc.) may attract the reader’s attention to the fact that the United States might indeed have acquired a significant lead in weaponry by exploiting information derived from UFO observations and reverse engineering of recovered wreckage. I agree with Dr. Greer. I believe that as soon as the U.S. possessed directed-energy weapons, they deliberately shot down UFOs to analyze them.

Why the U.S. Is Suspected of Possessing Antimatter Bombs.

"Flux compression" generators—such as those tested by Sakharov in the early 1950s—are now entering public knowledge. These are the generators that equipped the E-bombs and cruise missiles used during the Gulf War. Specialists know these generators (see annex &&&) can also compress objects to extremely high pressures (25 megabars in 1952) and accelerate them to very high speeds (50 km/s in 1952). Toward the end of the 1960s, Americans considered operating these systems using low-power atomic bombs (1 kiloton of TNT) as explosives. The pressures achieved were so extreme that they managed, in this kind of "laboratory," to reproduce conditions similar to the Big Bang—matter then transforming into antimatter. The energy produced turned out to be one hundred times greater than expected. This was kept secret. Later, the Russians and Chinese attempted to replicate these experiments but failed due to lack of high-quality superconductors. Meanwhile, Americans used small quantities of antimatter to accelerate silicon vapor up to 500 km/s in MHD accelerators for space propulsion. With such boosters, they have accelerated space probes to speeds of up to 100 km/s and completed nearly a full survey of the Solar System over the past five years. They have tested antimatter bombs in which extremely powerful charges were synthesized in situ at the moment of impact. The first trials of these massively oversized bombs—too powerful for Earth testing—were conducted by launching them toward the Sun. To do this, very high-specific-impulse MHD-propelled bombs were launched on trajectories at wide angles to the ecliptic plane to merge with a known family of comets. Trials continued with shots aimed at Jupiter. Again, the bomb modules were directed so as to be mistaken for cometary debris. Initially loaded onto the military Atlantis shuttle, the modules were delivered on-site by an MHD-propelled cargo vehicle, which then self-destructed. The modules created a magnetosphere simulating cometary outgassing. They penetrated Jupiter’s upper atmosphere at 100 km/s thanks to their MHD shield system. Thermonuclear-compressed antimatter synthesis, followed by instantaneous explosion, caused the impacts to be mistaken for comet fragments. Later launches were directed at Jupiter’s moons, such as Io and Europa. On each occasion, Galileo—sent into orbit precisely to monitor the trials—failed to transmit images to Earth, at least according to official accounts. It suffered multiple failures, depriving humanity of close-up views of Jupiter’s satellites.

An Open Question.

The purpose of these firings remains mysterious: are they intended as anti-comet weapons? Some astronomers believe that during the formation of the Solar System, a terrestrial planet was ejected by tidal forces into a highly eccentric, long-period orbit (2000–3000 years), at a wide angle to the ecliptic. This planet may have fragmented into countless pieces while passing within the Roche sphere of its parent body. The periodic return of this swarm of fragments—comet- or asteroid-sized, and thus undetectable beyond Jupiter’s orbit—might pose problems. Did extraterrestrials provide the Americans with means to accelerate their scientific and technical progress, enabling them to master the destruction of such objects between 2020 and 2030? Was the Roswell wreckage a fake, deliberately abandoned to trigger this acceleration? Every hypothesis may be considered. One must remember that if such a threat existed, it would require launching a projectile on a collision course with an object moving at 40 km/s—a conventional propulsion system would be useless, as the shot would then have to turn around and travel in convoy with the target. It would then need to bore a path through several kilometers using an antimatter burst, detonating a payload of several thousand megatons at the object’s center to transform it into debris smaller than one meter—each burning up in the atmosphere. Are the shots fired at Jupiter, Io, and Europa part of such a plan? In fact, we know very little about our Solar System and the future of Earth. Here in France, our group has received more than one phone call warning of approaching comets, each time including accurate perihelion dates long before these objects could be detected by Earth-based telescopes.

On Anti-Gravity.

Research in theoretical cosmology, which we have published and which was inspired by information received through alien contact, has led us to develop a cosmological model based on two universes, expanding upon ideas proposed by Andrei Sakharov in 1976: the twin universe cosmology. We believe this theory may also have been influenced by contact with aliens. Just read the strange closing remarks of his speech, delivered by his companion Helena Bonaire in Sweden upon receiving the Nobel Prize. This model describes a dual universe or double-universe structure. Australian researchers Foot and Volkas are today pursuing a similar line of inquiry, referring to it as "mirror universes" (papers published in Physical Review). We have demonstrated that the "apparent mass" of the "twin universe" is negative—that is, twin matter repels our own, while two particles of twin matter attract each other, consistent with Newton's law. This repulsion explains the re-acceleration of the expansion of our universe, while simultaneously slowing down the expansion of the twin universe. When interstellar vessels travel vast distances, they utilize the twin universe as a kind of "express subway." In this extremely rarefied region adjacent to our own, distances are shortened and the speed of light is greatly increased. This enables space travel, subject to the principle: "It is illegal to exceed the speed of light of the universe in which one is traveling." One American research team is working on an idea involving locally modifying the speed of light—the so-called "warp drive concept." Our approach is different and far more advanced. With the assistance of aliens, it has taken us years just to begin understanding how it functions, and describing it would require pages. In principle, the vehicle's mass must be transferred to the twin universe. When this occurs near Earth, the planet becomes invisible to the craft but exerts a negative, repulsive mass effect upon it. If stations in our universe and in the adjacent region of the twin universe are rapidly alternated, this change is imperceptible to an observer; however, during one phase the vessel falls under Earth's attraction, while during the other it rises under Earth's repulsion. Overall, this results in an apparent cancellation of the vessel's weight, regardless of its mass. This is our interpretation of what people refer to as anti-gravity. We do not know whether aliens have shared these techniques with humanity.

Conclusion

Let us remain grounded in what we already know. We are deeply concerned by Dr. Greer’s text. It is evident that a group of humans possess scientific and technical knowledge far ahead of the rest of the world. How did they acquire this knowledge, and why? Is it merely a consequence of the Roswell alien craft crash? Or is there a much more complex plan behind all this? Have aliens made contact with this group? What are their respective agendas? Is the dominance of this human group over the rest of the planet simply an attempt to help humanity survive the next passage of a swarm of planet fragments? We wish to know. If, at last, humanity becomes conscious that it is not alone, might it acquire wisdom and, using the technology that makes this possible, transform its planet into an Eden? Regardless, we believe the time has come for those who hold these secrets to come clean—and this is the essence of our approach to the Disclosure Project.

December 2002

Pr. Jean-Pierre Petit,
Research Director at CNRS, Astrophysicist, specialist in MHD and theoretical cosmology. (André Dufour, translator)

References:

(1) J.P. Petit: "Is supersonic flight possible?" Eighth International Conference on MHD Electrical Power Generation. Moscow 1983.

(2) J.P. Petit & B. Lebrun: "Shock wave cancellation in a gas by Lorentz force action." Ninth International Conference on MHD Electrical Power Generation. Tsukuba, Japan, 1986.

(3) B. Lebrun & J.P. Petit: "Shock wave annihilation by MHD action in supersonic flows. Quasi-one-dimensional steady analysis and thermal blockage." European Journal of Mechanics; B/Fluids, 8, n°2, pp. 163–178, 1989.

(4) B. Lebrun & J.P. Petit: "Shock wave annihilation by MHD action in supersonic flows. Two-dimensional steady non-isentropic analysis. Anti-shock criterion, and shock tube simulations for isentropic flows." European Journal of Mechanics, B/Fluids, 8, pp. 307–326, 1989.

(5) B. Lebrun: "Theoretical approach to the suppression of shock waves forming around a sharp obstacle placed in an ionized argon flow." PhD Thesis No. 233. University of Poitiers, France, 1990.

(6) B. Lebrun & J.P. Petit: "Theoretical analysis of shock wave annihilation by Lorentz force field." International MHD Symposium, Beijing 1990.

Annex 1: MHD Annex 3 (MHD torpedo)

January, February 2003: No reaction

I contacted Debbie Foch several times, asking whether my presentation had been read by a member of Dr. Greer’s scientific team. (From a technical standpoint, I had uploaded the presentation to my server, making it easily accessible; indeed, anyone with knowledge of the site's address could download it.) No reply. I tried multiple times. In January, she claimed to be on holiday for two weeks. Eventually, someone provided me with Dr. Greer’s personal secretary’s email address, to whom I drew attention to the existence of this document—she could have downloaded it without any difficulty. Again, no response.

One is now entitled to wonder what is happening here. Given Dr. Greer’s recent and sensational revelations during his radio interview, there are only a few plausible explanations:

1. Greer has indeed been informed of a revolutionary discovery made by a non-physicist—a discovery capable of flooding our planet with free energy in an incredibly short time, and providing an inexhaustible energy source.
2. Greer, due to his complete naivety, has been exploited by a clever con artist. However, if this is true, then all members of his scientific team must also be victims of the same fraud. In any case, this hypothesis would completely discredit the Disclosure Project and its entire purpose: to uncover a source of free energy and draw public attention to secret American programs, possibly stemming from unclear relations with "aliens." All of Greer’s actions would then be dismissed as fantasy, mixed with Star Trek, Mars Attacks, Independence Day, and similar pop culture tropes—thereby discrediting any future individual advocating similar positions.
3. Greer was fully aware of the Disclosure Project’s true objectives: to first awaken public interest by shouting "You are being kept in the dark," and then to undermine the project by discrediting himself—an operation that all participants might have been well-paid to carry out.

Let us consider one particular aspect of this matter: Even before Dr. Greer founded his company to investigate how to extract energy from empty space, his initial declaration enthusiastically invited all scientists linked to alleged secret projects to come forward. He claimed these secret programs were withholding vital scientific and technical information from the global community, thereby preventing significant progress for humanity. Some testimonies from retired government officials followed—but they were of little importance. In fact, no one ever came forward publicly. My question: Was this entire effort a manipulation designed to lure out the "chatterboxes," so they could be identified and "weeded out"—a term used in Greer’s original statement? From this perspective, it becomes clear why my information was never included on the Disclosure website: such knowledge was not meant to reach the public, nor to inspire others to take similar initiatives. Now we understand why there was no reaction at all.

It is indeed difficult to believe that every member of the Disclosure Project’s scientific team—several of whom are physicists—are incompetent fools. Moreover, I generally have a reputation for being able to explain complex matters in simple, accessible terms. I would have expected one of the team members to write me a letter within months of receiving my information, saying: "I am the physicist assigned by Dr. Greer to evaluate your findings. Could you please answer the following questions...?"

So far, there has been no response, and as time passes, the hope of such a reaction fades further. I would therefore suggest that my readers write (in English) to Dr. Greer and Debbie Foch, and send me a copy of their letters. I will also post any replies I receive on my website.

I do not believe this Disclosure initiative is genuinely transparent. Rather, I suspect it is part of a widespread disinformation campaign. Magnetohydrodynamics is a highly precise field. All the information I have detailed in my book

Editions Albin Michel, 22 rue Huygens, 75014 Paris, France

Jean-Pierre Petit

"UFOs and Secret American Weapons" (currently available only in French)

January 2003, ISBN 2-226-13169

makes sense. Regarding the B2, you might also have witnessed a strange phenomenon apparently linked to a powerful electrical discharge occurring at transonic speed—check out the film available on the Northrop Grumman company’s website. Let us simultaneously note that the Biefeld-Brown effect has attracted considerable attention, with some people linking it directly to anti-gravitational phenomena. Numerous papers can be found online, suggesting that the B2 and other craft in current experimental programs are actually using antigravity. Countless pages on this subject are available on the internet. Far less has been written about MHD, and when it is discussed, the details are often inaccurate and simplistic—such as describing the device as located beneath a hypersonic craft, whereas the real challenge lies in transferring the ventilation flaps to the upper surface of the craft and then slowing down incoming air through a generator situated on the side.

In the USA, things often revolve around money. See:

http://www.disclosureproject.com/shop.htm

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